The Descent is Easy

Commentary S02E01

We’re starting on Season 2 of our #enjoyshadowhunters commentaries, and try to remember how commentaries go and also what the hell happened at the beginning of Season 2?!? Man, it’s been a while! 

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Bookclub 4.1 City of Fallen Angels: Chapters 1-3 (1/7)

Bookclub is back!

We are reading chapter 1 – 3 of City of Fallen Angels. Our characters take a bit of a step back from where we left them at the end of book 3, ready for their next rolling adventure we’re sure! Join us over the next 7 episodes, posted every other week. 

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Series Round Up of Shadowhunters

All good things…

So we’ve finally arrived at the end of this particular chapter of our journey.  We’ve had an absolute ball. Thank you to everyone who’s written in, tweeted, commented, or hash tagged over the past 2 years, because while The Descent is Easy is not going anywhere, this is our last official episode (famous last words…)about the TV show Shadowhunters. Best bits, MVPs, and best episodes – hold onto your hats.

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Extra 30b: Secondary Characters – Part 2/2

In which we discuss the Secondary Characters on Shadowhunters that you wanted us to talk about. Which turns out to be MANY. Here’s part 2 of 2.

We discuss Jordan, Caterina, Madzie, Lorenzo, Underhill, Hodge, Rebecca Lewis, Azaezel, Asmodeus, Jonathan, Valentine, Meliorn and Maryse. 

We also reveal our goodie bag winners. Thank you so much to everyone who wrote in!!!

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The Hunters Of Shadow Convention 3 – Sunday Group Panel

Group Panel – Sunday

Fan: We didn’t get to see a Christmas episode, but if we had, if your character were the Secret Santa of the person to your right, what would you get them?

Tessa looks forlornly at the empty chair to her right…

Alberto: I don’t want to be that guy, but Simon’s Jewish… (cheering)

Isaiah (to Dom): I’d probably get Jace a set of fighting knives. That double as steak knives.

Dom: And he would love them! And so would Dom!  — (to Matt) I think I would get Alec a series of stress balls. Not just one, but like a whole box. (turns to Matt) And I’d get you like a portrait of a cow…

Matt (to Anna): What does Santa Clause get bad kids in France? Coal? It’s the same? Well…

Anna: Thank you!

Anna (to Luke): I would get you something with fire or heat. Maybe like a straightening iron or a lighter…

Luke (taking Anna’s microphone): They didn’t give me a microphone because they hate me… (crowd: AWWWW) (to Kat) I would get Kat, erm.. no.. I would.. what’s your name?

Kat: Clary!

Luke: Clary! I would get Clary another twinning rune because she liked the first one so much!

Kat (to Will): I would get Sebastian/Jonathan…

Will: That’s my name!

Kat: I would get him therapy. Maybe a warm hug.

Will (to Jade): I would get Meliorn… you know Billy Bass, the fish? You press a button and it goes (does a Billy Bass impression). I would get him one of those, but it wouldn’t say anything! It would just (turns head and opens his mouth, silently)

Jace (to Alberto): I would get Simon a list… you’re dating Izzy? Okay.. (mimes unrolling the longest scroll) – These are the things you need to know!

Alberto (to Tessa): What would Simon get Heidi?? (laughter) Probably a restraining order…

Tessa (to empty chair): Well…

Dom: You go around, you get Luke!

Tessa: Ah man. I mean, I gave you a bunch of dead werewolves and you didn’t like that…

Isaiah: Thank you for those

(laughter)

Dom: Great question to start off with! Well done! Now Dan, the poor fellow has to translate all of our nonsense!

Michelle: It’s Sunday morning so I thought I’d start you off easy – What’s your favourite dinosaur?

Matt: Am I supposed to start us off?

Kat: Sure!

Matt: You all know what my favourite one is. The one that goes.. What does it do? Show me what it does! (600 people mime the frills of the Jurassic Park dinosaur) And then it spits acid in the dude’s face. I like that guy. Someone told me the name for it and I don’t remember it and I’m sure I’m going to get yelled at for it later.. Chastise me later!

Anna: I like raptors. Cause I’m from Toronto! (Luke cheers)

Kat: They’re very wraith like as well

Matt: Raptors are? Pterodactyls more like it! Ridiculous!

Anna: Also raptor have really short front legs, like my corgi.

Matt: You have a corgi?

Anna: Yeah, his name is Jasper.

Kat: Do you guys have Land Before Time? I’m not sure…

Alberto: (unprompted) It’s a brontosaurus.

Kat: No, I’m not sure.. I like the stegosaurus.

Lots of discussion about who is who in Land Before Time, Spike is mentioned, Cera is mentioned, no one seems to quite agree who is who and what dinosaurs they each are.

Luke: I take brontosaurus!

Dom: If you play videos of lemurs running backwards it looks like a herd of brontosaurus running forwards, because their tail sticks up like that. It’s great!! (clearly searching for it on his phone)

Kat: In the way that Matt is an encyclopaedia for everything, Dom is an encyclopaedia for cute animal videos. He knows them all!

Dom: Oh yeah! Try and shock me with one today. You won’t! (still searching on his phone) Oh! My internet just died. Ok. Let’s keep going!

Will: I’m going to say triceratops BUT… you know those suits people can wear when they want to dress up like a dinosaur? It’s like half dinosaur, half arm flailing tube man. I know there’s a human inside, but I actually want one of those! I could BE a dinosaur.

Jade: Brontosaurus as well. Long neck. I think it’s because of Jurassic Park.

Alberto: Mine’s the albertosaurus. It’s actually a dinosaur…

Tessa: It’s what happens when you’ve not eaten in a few hours..

Alberto: What?

Tessa: It comes out when…

(everyone else catches on to what Tessa just said. So does Alberto…)

Alberto: Whoa…

(laughter)

Tessa: Erm… Anyway… Mine’s Pterodactyl or I could just take a train and leave..

Matt: Isaiah, what’s your favourite dinosaur?

Isaiah: You baby!

(they laugh, then high five)

Everyone pauses and looks at Dan. Kat apologises.

Fan: If you were a warlock, what would your warlock mark be?

Lots of cooing and awww’ing from the cast, as the question was asked by a very young girl, before everyone starts talking to the person next to them, failing to actually talk

Matt: Are we discussing this or what?

Dom: I’m sorry, we were explaining warlock marks to Dan.

Matt: Alright! Warlock marks. A warlock mark. What happens, is that you’re a warlock and you get a mark. Sometimes you get fish gills. Sometimes you get cat eyes. Yes, that whole cat thing. – – I would have a prehensile tail.

Kat: What kind of a tail?

Matt: It could climb trees. Overall it would be a pretty neat-o thing.

Dom: Okay, I would have wings then!

Matt: Get out of here, you can’t have wings.

Dom: Why can’t I have wings?

Matt: It’s not a mark.

Dom: It is a mark!

Matt: No, it’s a thing.

Dom: What do you mean it’s a thing? You get a tail.

Matt: It provides you too much benefit.

Dom: You get a tail!!

Matt: Yeah, *I* get a tail. *You* don’t get wings!

Dom: I get wings. I want wings.

Matt: We already discussed this

Dom: We did not discuss this! I’m having wings! I want wings

Matt: You get nothing! And like it!

Dom: You get a tail, but it’s this big (holds fingers a few centimetres apart. Cheering and laughter.) It wags when you get excited… that’s all you get!

Luke: Anna and I had the same one, which is horns

Kat: I was also going to say wings but…

Matt: But you can’t!

Kat: But I’ve decided that I would rather have legs that have the ability to run really fast. So that I can travel really far distances

Matt: (sputters) No! See! No! That’s not a mark!

Luke: That’s a superpower!

Dom: Like the legs of a cheetah or something?

Kat: Yes!

Dom: Okay, cool!

Matt: (eyerolling) I’d like to have a canon for an arm

Kat: But it’s the same as having like gills and stuff!

Alberto: I would want gills!

Kat: Cause Madzie had gills

(laughter)

Kat: Apparently we are unclear on what a warlock mark can or cannot be.

Luke: Gills don’t allow you to swim under water, do they? Can Madzie swim under water?

Jade: Yeah they let you breath underwater!

Matt: Although there are other necessary organs!

Jade: She can totally breath under water!

Dom: Well, you would need gills, but you would also need the respiratory system of a fish! If Magnus just had the eyes, could he see in the dark? I don’t know!

(cheering and whooping)

Dom: Wait, if I had wings, could I fly, or would my bones be too heavy? Because birds have hollow bones… (Matt mouths something at him) Oh! My wings are just this big? (holds hands a foot apart) They’re like chicken wings. I could only fly this far of the ground (a foot).

Matt: Are you serious? Chickens fly!

Dom: Yeah. But I’m bigger than a chicken!

Matt: I mean, big chickens exist…

Kat: You could have ostrich wings!

Will: What Alberto said is amazing! I was going to say claws, but now because of this, I want to adapt them, into those things that Spiderman has, that allows him to climb walls.

Matt: Like a gecko?

Dom: Or a spider. It’s Spiderman.

Matt: Oh yeah! Right. Wouldn’t your bones be too heavy for that, too?

Dom: Or the lesser known superhero Geckoman.

Alberto: What would you call that? Tentacle hands?

Dom: No, they’re like hooks. They’re little microscopic hooks on your fingers.

Matt: Fine hooks

Dom: Like Velcro

Matt: Well no, not like Velcro.

Alberto: If you shake someone’s hand, can you feel them?

Dom: No! They’re retractable, right?

Kat: Like Magnus’ eyes!

Dom: Like, how does he let go? Does he retract them into his hands?

Matt: I don’t know anything about Spiderman

Will: Also it can’t be Velcro! Otherwise I could only climb Velcro buildings.

(laughter)

Matt: Have you ever seen those cats climb the side of a wall?

Dom: Yeah!

Matt: Wow!

Jade: Ok, since I don’t want deformed small wings, I want skin that can glow in the dark, or that makes me invisible. Or like reflects everything, so I’m like…

Alberto: Like a chameleon?

Jade: Yeah! That’s a mark, right?

Dom: That’s pretty good!

Matt: That sounds good

Dom: That’s the most sensible answer so far!

Alberto: I would have gills. Because it’s the whole respiratory system.

 Dom: So you’re including the whole.. everything?

Alberto: No, gills are the repertory system. It’s all of it.

Matt: Well that’s going to suck when you’re not in the water!

Alberto: You’d have lungs, too!

Matt: You can’t have both!!

Dom: I’m not sure whether you can have both..?

Alberto: Can you not have both?

Kat: Madzie can breathe above water!

Dom: Yeah, that’s true. She had gills, didn’t she? But her gills just murdered everyone… they had a different power. They sucked the air out of the room

Matt: (to audience) Is this a conversation that any of you can understand??

(Audience cheers)

Matt: Okay. It’s very important to me that you understand what we’re saying.

Tessa: Jade, is your skill that you turn into stuff or are you just invisible?

Jade: My skin is reflective, so I’m kind of like a mirror, invisible thing…

Tessa: I want to *become* the material I’m near to.

Jade: Oooooooh… like a cuttle fish?

Matt: A cuttle fish!

Dom: Yeah, I like that!

Isaiah: I would want diamond teeth. So if I smiled, it would be the brightest smile in the world. And if I went broke, I could pull a tooth out…

Alberto: You’d have a really strong bite, too. You could bite into anything!

Dom: Like Jaws.  – – Oh wait… What was the bad guy in that called?

Isaiah: Jaws…?

Dom: So it was Jaws? That makes sense, doesn’t it?

Matt: I like that you were thinking about the financial security, too.

What’s next for your characters? I know Jonathan and Lilith for example are dead….

Luke: I mean… we’re not a 100% certain on that…

So are they in paradise or in hell? What’s next for Clace? Sizzy? Malec? And Luke as a Shadowhunter? And Meliorn, now that the seelie queen is dead?

Dom goes to start, but Isaiah draws breath

Dom: Do you want to go first?

Isaiah: I’ll just go real quick, cause it’s really easy. Luke would do whatever Alec asked him to do because now I work for the inquisitor.

(laughter)

Dom: That’s a solid answer. Jace would probably do the opposite of that because his brother is the boss now. So he’d be all “Jace, go and do this thing!” and he’d be like “oH SuRe, oKaY!”

Jace: But potentially with the way we ended the story, he would get to not do what he’s told with Clary, which is nice.

Kat: So back to normal.

Dom: Yeah. Yeah. Except maybe you’d listen this time…

(Audience ooooooohs)

Dom: Oh come on!! Put your hand up if you died because of Clary!

(Dom, Alberto, Luke, Will & Anna raise their hands)

Matt: It had never occurred to me how many people you are directly responsible for murdering…

Luke: And some of them aren’t even here!

Matt: I’m going to make things a little easier on you. Alec actually quits as inquisitor. He opens a small hardware store of exit 60 on the New Jersey turnpike. 3-4 employees. Pretty solid life. Every now and again he goes to the jersey shore during the summer.

Isaiah: Do some woodwork?

Matt: Yeah, do some woodwork. You could be an employee if you want to be? Do you have an apron?

Isaiah: I like construction!

Matt: Good. Build houses maybe. Do some contracting jobs. Move up in the world. It’d be great.

Isaiah: Nice craftsman style

Matt: Craft stuff? Yeah, that sounds great!

Isaiah: Okay!

Anna: So we can answer if we’re dead? I think Lilith would have a change of heart. Things don’t ever work out for her. I think first she’d apologise to Meliorn. (to Jade) Sorry for what I did.

Jade: It’s okay

(audience coos)

Dom: FIRST she would apologise to MELIORN??

Anna: Well… it was the last thing I did…

Luke: Yeah but… Out of all the people?

Anna: You’d be last

Dom: Okay. As long as I’m on the list…

Anna: (turning to Luke) I would cook you breakfast. Make your favourite pancakes. With lots of fire.

Luke: Thanks mama!  – –  I choose to believe that Clary didn’t kill me. It just looked like that. I think she strangled the evil out of me and I woke up in Toronto, by myself, really confused, wearing the weirdest outfit and I now have a job making coffee.

Kat: Java Jonathan!

Luke: Yes!!

Kat: The Morningstern siblings have it rough, both waking up in strange places, dressed very strangely… I think Clary’s draw to the shadow world is undeniable and that love she has for all those people takes her back to it, no matter what so I think she would be a part of it somehow, whether she remembers her past or not. She’d be welcomed back and maybe she could make up for all the deaths she’s caused?

Matt: Get back to murdering

Kat: She could re-join the family? Maybe murder the right people?

Will: Well, Sebastian: Dead! Jonathan: Dead! So it’s turned out pretty well for me, let me tell you!

Luke: I would like to apologise for that..

Will: If I was not dead, I’d probably get some therapy, and then I would go and see mommy dearest and then I’d be like “Who’s this guy??” (pointing at Luke) and then for the rest of my life I’d just be sorting this situation out. What’s going on??

Jade: (pointing at Will and Luke) This is so cool! Seeing them together!!

Jade: I would… well. I’ve discovered I’m the new seelie king. And I would make some changes… Like, why do we have to be assholes? So yeah, I would change stuff. I would hang out more. I would sing. We’d play. And merge the realms.

Alberto: I think Simon will continue training as a downworld deputy but he would also teach a class to shadowhunters about understanding mundanes. And he would start an initiative to teach shadowhunters how to use social media, to figure out demonic activity. He’d be like ‘Yo! People are posting on Instagram about this shit going down right now’

Dom (as Jace): Great day at the institute. Hashtag Selfie! (audience laughing and cheering) And everyone would be like ‘Jace, you’re doing it wrong. That’s not…’

Alberto: You don’t say hashtag, you *do* the hashtag…

Dom looks confused, Alberto tries to mime explain his joke, they are sitting very far apart, it’s clearly not working

Dom: We’ll talk later?

Alberto: We’ll talk later!

Tessa: Heidi is also dead. I think she’s in hell. Kicking it back. I think she’s finally where she fits in. Feeling really good. Hosting some sensible cocktail parties perhaps. I think she’s finally found her place and she’s thriving!

(Dan translates everyone but pauses and says he didn’t hear the beginning. He knows Dom/Jace would do the opposite of Isaiah but he didn’t catch that…)

Isaiah: I’m doing roadwork with Alec. We have a hard wear store… I make the keys in the back…

(Dan despairs)

Dom: Just say it in French. It makes no sense in English either, seriously, just say ‘he makes keys’ in French.

And that was the last question of the panel, much to Dan’s relief we are sure!

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The Hunters Of Shadow Convention 3 – Saturday Group Pannel

Group Panel – Saturday

Dom: Hello everyone! (loud cheering) Thank you for having us in Paris! (cheering) It’s been wonderful so far and we’re very excited to get started with this wonderful weekend and all you wonderful people

Matt: Hello! There’s a lot of people here today. That’s exciting, we’re going to have a lot of fun, and you guys are going to be loud. (loud cheering) (in THAT voice) Let’s have a great time.

Will: (At what Matt said) That’s beautiful. I mean, that’s beautiful! The sentiment there… just beautiful! (to crowd) Hi guys! How’s it going? (loud cheering) So good to be here, so good to see you all… and introducing this guy (pointing at Luke – super loud cheering)

Luke: (shy wave) Hi

Will: They were going to give us just the one chair, and just switch us back and forth…

Luke: To be fair, I thought they were one chair short and I was just going to leave… (AWW)

Harry: Hello… (Insanely loud cheering) we’re going to have a lot of fun today. Can’t wait to meet you all and answer some deep questions. So.. let’s give it another scream! (cheering)

Kat: Good morning everybody! (cheering) THOS con Paris was our first Shadowhunters convention and it always feels like family and it always feels like coming home and we’ve got the whole family here today!

Alberto: Hello hello (cheering) It’s really great to be here again. I see a lot of familiar faces, I see a lot of new faces. Can’t wait to meet all of you or see all of you again!

Nicole: Hello (super loud cheering) It’s so amazing to be in Paris. I love Paris and like Alberto was saying, it’s really cool at this point in our journey, all of us together as a family, us and you guys, to start seeing people that I recognise and also to see new people and it’s been an amazing time so far in your city, thank you for having us!

Jade: Wow! (cheering) Bonjour! (cheering) Ca va? (loud cheering!) Jade continues talking in French to lots of screaming about how it’s good to be back in Paris and to see how the convention has grown.

Emeraude: Hello everyone! I am so excited to be back, and to see everyone. It’s been a while and I can’t wait to see you all and take pictures and do fun things together and I will see you guys soon.

David: Buongiorno. Did I say that right? (NOPE!) Good to see you guys. So happy you guys came out. Is anyone else sweating? It’s so freaking hot! (cheering) You guys are awesome. I’m always excited to come to these conventions because of the love you guys give us. I love you guys so much and I can’t wait to meet you.

Kat: Do we get to answer questions now?

Dan: Yes! Are you ready?

Kat: So ready!

Dan: Deep questions

Jade: What’s your favourite…. Pony?

Alberto: Wait. Can I ask a question? How many people were here last year? (cheering) How many people is this their first convention? (quieter cheering)

(Kat congratulates Alberto for breaking the ice)

If you could live in any time period, which one would you choose and why?

Emeraude: The 1950s, the 20s, I don’t know. Any time where the girls were dressing cute!

Alberto: I’d like to say that I would live in a different time, but there are a lot of comforts in this time that I’m not sure I’d want to live without…

Dom: I agree. All my friends are here. My family is here. I want to stay in this time (audience coos) No no no no! Not them! My actual friends.

Harry: But don’t you think there is another version of all of us in another time?

Dom: Where we all run a speakeasy in the 20s or something?

Harry: That’s a wormhole right there!

Nicola: I mean, not to get too serious, but at least for women and for a lot of people, this is the best  time there has ever been. As women, it’s now or never baby. We’re at the beginning of a future of women actually achieving equality so for me, I’m sticking with right now and the future!

Emeraude: That was a fabulous answer. So I agree with her!

David: On another serious note, once upon time, there was a time, when there was no time. So…

Kat: Now that’s deep!

David: I don’t know where I was going with that… Anyway. Elvis. I love Elvis. I want to meet him!

Jade: Atlantis! Some of you think it’s not a real time, but it is! That’s where I belong.

Matt: (off microphone) But it’s underwater

Jade: Yes!

Dom: Use your microphone Matt!

Nicola: He’s saying he’d chose Atlantis, before it was in the ocean

Harry: ooooooh

Dom: Isn’t the ocean part the bit that makes it cool tough? Otherwise it’s just a city!

Matt: (to Jade) You do like mermaids a lot!

Dom: The mermaids wouldn’t be there if it was above ground! – – Hey Dan! (Dan is the translator) Loving your life so far? (laughter)

Did you know each other before the show or did you get to know each other during the show?

Dom: It’s a mixed answer. I knew Will from London and Kat and Luke from LA. I met everyone else on the show. Aaaand… that’s it.

Kat: I knew Dom beforehand and I met Luke during, outside of the show. And the other ones became family. I never forget the first day when I got to Toronto all these guys were pretty much there already and we all went to dinner. And I was really nervous about it. I was the youngest one on the cast and going to be living in a foreign country with all of these people and I only knew Dom. Having everybody become a family so quickly… we pretty much laughed until we cried that first dinner and it really set things off in a great way.

Harry: Yeah, Kat was like 12 years old when the show started.

Nicola: Jade and I met working on a play together in Toronto as we both do theatre and we’re both Canadian. When we got the play we started rehearsals and Jade was worried because he had to take two days off to do this TV show that I’m doing. And I was like ‘Oh my god me too!’ What’s the show? Shadowhunters! What about you? Shadowhunters!

(Jade, in French, talks about knowing Anna Hopkins, pointing at the photograph up on the screen. Audience says no, he’s confused, looks at the picture again, realises it’s Emeraude, searches the screen, realises Anna isn’t on it (as she’s only here Sunday). Jade: Nooooooooo.

Jade also knew Alexandra Odolis, who plays Ollie, and the Seelie Queen.

Harry: What’s Seelie queen in French?

Jade & Dan: Reine De Fee? (They start discussing the difference between fairy and seelie and whether that’s the correct translation. There’s mumbling on stage. Nicola joins in. The first few rows of the audience join in. Everything is talking amongst themselves and confused)

Matt: I DIDN’T KNOW ANY OF THEM! And that’s a really quick translation! So we can do that… (Matt realises that no one’s paying attention to him) What’s happening here? What are we deciphering?

Jade: Fairy and Seelie

Matt: oooooooh..

Will: Should I answer the question? Will that make it more difficult? I did know Dom and I messaged him to say ‘You got this amazing job! Well done!!’ and then, who knew, a few years later, I’m on the show… it’s crazy!

Harry: I didn’t know anyone either. At first I thought I was in an episode of Project Runway. Everyone is just so good looking!

Emeraude: (mocking) Project Runway?!?

Harry: Nevermind. America’s Next Top Model! I don’t know the difference… But what I love about this project is that everyone is so different but the thing that they all have in common is that they all have such good heart and they’re all so talented and know they all have really bright futures ahead of them and it’s really cool to be part of this project that almost had people from all over the world and I think that’s why (dramatic pause) y’all are here (super loud cheering)

Emeraude: I knew Harry but Harry didn’t know me because I was a fan of Glee!

If you could take your character to a concert, which band or artist would you take them to?

Jade: (sing-song) Ga-ga!

David: Kpop

Emeraude: That is so weird! Raphael at a Kpop concert??

David: I know! But I just saw Kpop on Instagram and I thought it was fun. Any Kpop fans here today? (cheering) Okay, well in that case Raphael’s going!

Harry: I have to agree with that. We got a lot of inspiration for Magnus from BIGBANG, their make up and stuff. So I think Magnus definitely went to a couple of BIGBANG concerts. Maybe some BTS I guess.

Emeraude: I really like Halsey right now, and I just really want to meet her, so I would use Isabelle as an excuse to meet her.

Nicole: I would take Maryse to see Jade live. I love Jade’s music and if you haven’t checked it out then do so, it is unbelievable! And it’s so empowering and I think Maryse could use some uplifting empowerment and I think Jade’s music would help her do that so I’m going with Jade all the way.

Alberto: The first impulse thought was to take Simon to a Barenaked Ladies concert. That would be so much fun.

Dom: Do you want to translate now Dan? Before we do the second half of answers? We’ll try really hard to concise these answers because you have a queue of people and we’ll ramble for an hour and a half about what our favourite band is.

Emeraude: (interrupting Dan, before he can start translating) I’m really interested in Matt Daddario’s answer! What would it be?

Matt: I don’t want to waste time!

Emeraude: We’re not wasting time! I’m sure everyone wants to know what your answer is!

Matt: It’s not us, it’s our character-

Emeraude: Stop avoiding the question!!

Matt: I’m not, but we have to think about-

Emeraude: JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION

Harry: He can’t think of any band name. At all.

There’s a pause when everyone turns to Dan, waiting for him to translate

Kat: Matt, you’ve got time to google! Go!

Harry: (giggling to himself) The beatles!

(Dan translates)

Kat: I would like Clary to take me to a Simon Lewis concert! And outside the Shadowworld, I think Clary and I would enjoy a P!nk concert.

Luke: We had a long discussion because we were wondering if it was on the same line, and it is…

Will: Well, it kind of is…

Luke: It is! Like, very similar

Will: Well, you say yours and then I say mine

Luke: Mine would be Blink182

Will: And I was going to say Black Sabbath, which I don’t know if that’s the same

Luke: It is! It’s heading in that direction.

Will: It’s true. I need to say Sebastian as well, and we think…

Luke: ..we think for Sebastian…

Will: …It would be like Disney on Ice or something like that

Matt: (pointing between Luke and Will) This is really cute, what’s happening here

Luke: It’s really funny, I want to compare notes. I’m like ‘what do you think about this? What’s going through your head right now?’

Will: We really should have done this before the show ended.

Luke: Yeah, awkward.

Kat: Alright Matt, it’s your turn now

Matt: I already said I’m not sure!

Emeraude: Well say something!

Matt: There’s no point trying to force me to say something. I don’t know what the answer is.

Kat: What about the symphony orchestra or something?

Matt: He might not want to do that necessarily, or he’s probably done that before!

Emeraude: You’d probably rock out to Beyonce or something, right?

Matt: I think the Jade answer is a great answer. It’s a solid answer and I think it would be fun for him

Emeraude: Dom, what did you say?

Dom: I haven’t yet. It’s cheating a little bit but I would like to take Jace to see someone like Elvis. Someone who is so spectacular at what they do, and I quite like the idea of Jace watching him like “why is he moving like that? Is he in pain? Is he hurting?”

Matt: Elvis isn’t alive anymore…

Dom: hey hey hey

David: Don’t you talk about my Elvis like that!  

Since you started filming Shadowhunters, how has your life changed?

Kat: Being barely 19 when I started the show-

Harry: 12!

Kat: 12. Yes. Coming out of the show in my mid 20s it’s a huge influential part of your life-

(Alberto interrupts and whispers to her)

Kat: Early twenties. I’m rounding up, it’s fine. Okay, I’m not rounding up. Coming out of the show in my 20s, I’m so thankful to have been surrounded by such wonderful people, both in the fandom, and all these people up here on stage, the crew and everyone. If there’s anything I’ve learnt it’s that you are an amalgamation of all the people you spend the most time with and that influence you and I can’t thank everyone enough for everything I’ve learnt.

Harry: I’ve grown an appreciation for everyone who wears make up and what it takes to take it off at the end of the night. I have made progress from taking it off by wetting tissue and just like smearing it, and I see girls and they’re just like ‘ooooh, don’t do that!!’ and now I dab and I take it off really softly and nicely. So I’ve grown an appreciation for anyone who wears make up, eyeliner or nail polish.

Will: I’ve learnt a lot from Jonathan (turning to Luke) I’m sure it was the same for you…

(laughter)

Luke: I learnt what NOT to do.

Will: No, seriously. Before I started this job, I was a nice guy, but now, if anyone pisses me off….

Luke: I’ve learnt if anyone pisses me off, I just cry about it. It’s pretty much all I did.

Will: I just scowl at people. I’ve learnt to scowl. And I enjoy that!

Nicola: My life changed in huge ways. I had a 6 month old baby when I started shooting Shadowhunters and suddenly I had kids in their 20s and that was kind of fun. And it gets very lonely sometimes when you first have a baby and you don’t see your friends very much, especially if you’re a working mum so these guys were the first friends I made. Dom was the first person to say ‘come out, come with us and have some fun’. Everyone was so welcoming and they were the first friends that I made after I became a mum and it was a very significant thing for me to have all these guys at this point in my life. It was an epic shift for me, so it was really beautiful.

Jade: Honestly meeting all of these guys has been the best part! (to Emeraude) You’re my favourite. But this, THIS here is very much part of it and has very much changed everything which is why we’re in Paris right now, together, and going around the world. The show is cool, and it’s nice, and it’s fun, and it’s magic and like, ‘oooooh, a TV show!!’, but it doesn’t compare to the experiences that we have right now and in between shooting. These are the best parts.

What were some of the funniest moments?

Nicola: I always loved it when one of us was pretending to be dead or knocked out. There’s something funny about pretending to be passed out. We had a scene, with Dom and me, where I’m meant to be passed out and Magnus comes and saves me and it’s so hard to not laugh when you’re pretending to be dead or passed out. I think everyone at some point had to be dead or passed out and there’s something funny, too, about watching your friends trying to be dead and be like ‘I should do something to make them laugh!’

Matt: It helps if you sleep

Dom: Not if you’re supposed to be dead! I remember this. They did a shot over me, when I died, to Kat and Alan, and I just heard Drew go “I can see you breathing!”

Emeraude: There’s a video we did for Matt Daddario’s birthday that we all had to keep a straight face, and I thought that was a cool moment

Harry: It was! We did it like 6 times and you just couldn’t keep a straight face the whole time!

Emeraude (deadpan): Happy Birthday Matt

Harry: There you go!

Kat: I think one of my favourite memories was one of the first dinners we ever had and we played that game where you all put your phones away and then whoever touches their phone first-

Matt: That game? That GAME where we put our phones AWAY at DINNER?

Kat: Yes!

Dom: You all put them in the middle and if someone grabs their phone, they have to pay for everything

Kat: You were there!!

Matt: I don’t remember that

Kat: We were all still getting to know each other

Jade: Who won?

Kat: We had to split the cheque in the end because we were all good! But it was one of the best conversation we had because we were forced to get to know each other

Harry: So the lessons is-

Matt: Wait wait wait. This is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. We went to dinner and we put our phones out in front of us and that way we were forced to get to know each other? Otherwise, what happens? Would we all sit there like this (pretends to be on phone).

Kat: Literally that’s what people do

Harry: I’ve seen a lot of dinners like that

Dom: Yeah

Matt: On their phones?

Harry: Literally, eating and on their phones.

Matt: (eyerolling) Wow… that sounds like a great dinner

(silence)

Dom: Dan? (laughter)

(Dan translates)

Harry: The last thing I’ll say was the funniest moment was the baby goat legs? Did you see that? The blooper? I think I gained like 4 abs from laughing. I don’t even remember the line, but I had to do a serious line like ‘here is this beautiful baby’ and then plonk.

Dom: And it was! It literally was this noise (drops microphone)

Harry: And we couldn’t… usually you want to be professional but we could not get through that scene.

Kat: I looked over and Matt is purple and Harry is crying and everyone is losing it

Dom: The only person who kept it together was the mother

Matt: Well the nurse-mother has a scene earlier where I go upstairs and I’m looking for her and she comes out and very seriously goes ‘Shhh. Baby’s sleeping’. And I couldn’t get through that scene either because there’s something so funny about the silence and then that very serious line. The goat feet though. Thank got they got rid of that, because that did not work.

Dan: Sorry. I’ve lost you.. what was it you had in your arms?

Harry: A goat feet baby.

Dan: A baby?

Harry: A baby with goat feed

Kat: A human baby with-

Matt: Prosthetics-

Harry: And I’m holding a real baby, too!

Lots of confusion, everyone is trying to help, talking simultaneously, but making it worse

Nicola: Jade, do you want to translate this?

Jade: Okay, so it was a real baby with fake goat legs?

Dom: Yes, real baby. Fake goat legs. We couldn’t find a real baby with real goat legs.

Dan: Okay, but the thing that fell on the floor was a fake baby?

Kat/Matt/Dom: No. No no no.

Matt: Goat feet

Dom: A real baby. Actual real human baby child.

Harry: Fake baby, real goat feet.

Dom: No!

Harry: I don’t know where they got the goat feet from but…

Matt: (to audience) Right, you’re just going to have to explain to your neighbour what happened!

(Dan starts to translate. Everyone on stage watches the sign interpreter)

Alberto: What is the sign for goat feet?

Dom: Yeah, we’re all quite curious here, what’s the sign for goat feet?

(Interpreter translates their questions into sign)

Matt: Oh no! Now she has to explain what we asked!

(Interpreter shows the guests what the sign for goat feet is)

Dom: This is all I’ve learnt. I’ve been watching this spectacular woman signing and translating everything (applause) and all I’ve learnt from it, is goat feet, which is cool, but…

Matt: It’s a useful thing to know!

Will: You can use that in many a conversation!

Dom: Many situations! All the time!

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The Hunters Of Shadow Convention 3 – Anna Hopkins / Luke Baines / Will Tudor Pannel

What are your favourite hobbies outside of the performing arts?

Will: Oh, okay. I do a bit of music on the side, but now I can’t say that! I do a lot of photography which I really enjoy. And travel as well. I love travel and I haven’t been able to do it enough. So I want to do it more!

Anna: I love to write. I write a lot. I love spending time with my dog. Oh, and my boyfriend!

Luke: Dog (puts hand above head). Boyfriend (puts hand below chair)

Anna: Also be with friends and also I hide in my house a lot. I like being alone. That’s a hobby.

Luke: I also really love photography but I also like going into a dark room and developing my own photos. I started in high school and it’s a bit like meditating, cause you’re just on your own in this dark room…

Will: That’s so much cooler than what I said!

Luke: Well basically my whole aim is to just take everything you say and say it better (laughter) And then with any remaining free time – it’s really trite to say, but it’s the truth – I work on my charity stuff as much as I possibly can. It also feels like meditating in a way because it’s so far removed from the performing arts.

Anna: Luke does some amazing work with Oxfam.

Have you ever heard your French dubbing voice?

Anna: Yes! It’s so much better!

Luke: Mine sounds like a Disney villain. (pretends to speak Disney Villain French) Like, what is happening here?

Will: I haven’t heard mine! How have you heard yours?

Luke: You just go to Netflix and you change language

Will: Aaaah. Wait! Do you and me have the same one? Cause that would be amazing!

(Audience says no. Will and Luke are sad.)

Will: Oh. Okay. Is mine any good?

Everyone: NOOOO

Anna: He’s like ‘I’m here guys’. He’s probably sitting in the back, really sad!

Luke: Oh no!

Anna: Don’t be mean to him! Wherever you are, thank you for your work!

Describe your first day of shooting

Luke: Mine was hilarious because I had known for a few months that I was going to be Jonathan and I was super excited and then they flew me to Toronto and then I had to wait another two weeks and it was great, I got to work the space, and me and Kat spent time together. And the night before I went for a fitting at 8pm and I ate something bad, so I had food poisoning on my first day of shooting. I was up from 2am and I had to be at the studio at 5am and I was just being sick all day. I was trying to work and the whole time I was just like ‘Don’t vomit on Kat. Don’t vomit on Kat. Don’t vomit on Kat.’ And I remember being in this scene and looking around thinking if I had to vomit, what would I do it in. And there was this big urn… I decided I was going to vomit in that. (laughter) There was a point during shooting where I thought I was going to pass out, I just felt so bad. And then a fire alarm went off and we all got evacuated for an hour, because there was a potential gas leak. There wasn’t. Everything was fine. But I think maybe I made it happen… I think I manifested it, so I could sleep for an hour, because it was the thing I needed to actually finish the day.

Anna: Well I’m sorry you got food poisoning, that sucks! Once, on another show, the whole cast and crew got food poisoning. It was really hard. – – Anyway. My first day was just one scene, so I’m going to talk about my second day of shooting, which was my first real day on Shadowhunters. We had to do all the black Lilith in the goo and because of scheduling we had to do black Lilith, then regular Lilith, then black Lilith again. We were shooting out in the church and I’d just met Brian, the make up artist, and he said ‘We’re going to get to know each other really well today’ and I was wondering what he meant by that. So he covered me in goo, but because we’re in the church, we can’t go back to Base Camp, so we had to go to a hotel room, so I walked through the hotel lobby, covered in goo. And we all go into a room and they sent me to the bathroom, telling me to take it off, here’s some make up remover, but it wouldn’t come off, and we were on such a tight schedule, Brian and two assistants had to come into the bathtub with me, and scrub my body clean. My whole body! It was insane. And the bathtub, this gorgeous bathtub, was turned black and we couldn’t get it out…

Luke: We’ve both been covered in that goo as well! All three of us have been covered in it and it’s horrid!

Will: My last day of shooting was in the goo. And it was in a tank. The front was Perspex and there was the entire crew watching me and I was basically naked except for this tiny.. cloth they give you. And I’m having this stuff dripped on me from the top and I just thought ‘this is NOT what I signed up for’. And it stains, doesn’t it?

Luke: I was finding black in my ears! In my hair! And I remember we had some quick changes and I was standing in the middle of the studio in this G-string that they give you, and I had three people spraying this.. I’m not even sure what it was, It was like Windex or something! It was so gross.

Will: It’s really odd. Like, when it first goes on, you think ‘oh this feels quite good. This is alright! This could be quite fun’. And I know this wasn’t quite the question you asked but that day, they called ‘And that’s a wrap on Will’ and it was my last wrap ever and I was in what felt like a zoo cage, me covered in goo going ‘aaargh’ and I had to get out, except everyone was packing up and I couldn’t get out because of the Perspex… Anyway. My first day of shooting was when I meet Izzy in the alley way and that was a nice introduction actually, because it was quite cool coming in, doing a big spin and getting a sword out and attacking people. And it set up the character of Sebastian quite well. This ideal of what he wanted to project. So that was a nice contrast to what he became later on.

What’s your Hogwarts house?

Anna: Oh shit. This is really fucked up guys. I’ve only just watched the first film!

Will: (in a hero voice) Gryffindor!

Luke: You don’t get to choose that. You’re a Huffelpuff! (laughter) I have been asked this and it’s very contentious because I chose to believe that I’m a Gryffindor. But I have been accused of manipulating the results, so I will get Gryffindor. But the hat lets you choose the house, so I can chose Gryffindor. – – – But also maybe I’m a Slytherin.

Anna: For a newcomer.. How do you choose your house?

Luke: The sorting hat is this ancient hat that you put on-

Anna: Where do you get it?

Luke: You don’t-

Anna: Can I order it?

Luke: No, it’s not on amazon

Will: We should say that this is in the fictional world of Harry Potter, there’s a sorting hat. Here you can go on a website and find it out. I’ve done this, and apparently I am a Gryffindor. But while I was answering the questions I thought ‘I’m such a Slytherin. Everything I was answering was like Slytherin. Slytherin. Slytherin. And then it came out Gryffindor and I’m like ‘hehe maybe I’ve tricked the system’

Luke: I am coming around to the idea of being in Slytherin.

Anna: From what I know you look like those people… In a good way. Like, hot and scary?

Luke: That’s just the one! Crabbe and Goyle do not look like that…

What’s your favourite French food?

Luke: Oh god, all of it! The butter! So much butter!

Will: The French butter is amazing

Luke: I just use bread as a delivery vessel for the butter. So much butter, it’s the best!

Dan: Okay, but regular butter, or salted butter, or butter with the salt crystals on top?

Luke: OH MY GOD the salt crystals? And it’s crunchy? And oh god! If I moved to Paris, which I desperately want to, I would have a heart attack I’d say within 6 weeks. But also croissants. Pain au Chocolate.

(Audience interrupts to be outraged about stuff)

Anna: It’s a controversy apparently

(Dan explains the war between part of France using ‘Pain au Chocolate’ and ‘Chocolatine’ – Luke makes audience cheer for one or the other, to see how the crowd splits.)

Anna: I’m from Quebec and we call is Chocolatine (lots of cheering)

Will: But… they’re basically the same thing, right?

Luke: It’s a potato / potahto situation

(Dan ends the fight by saying that it’s a pain au raisins, not raisintine, so there you are!)

Luke: I made the mistake this morning at breakfast there was… a croissant with chocolate – I’m not going to say it, I don’t want to take a side here – but I thought it had chocolate and I bit into it and it was raisins and I was just so sad. I just felt so.. betrayed!

Anna: I mean, I eat everything and food here is insanity. I like just a straight up jambon-beurre (ham and butter) sandwich. Tartare de boeuf. (Will starts jumping up and down on his chair) Frites. Crepes. Fuck, just everything.

Will: Yes, I just got incredibly excited at the beef tartar. It’s so good! And also steak here. Just a steak with – I know this isn’t food – but the wine! It’s so good. Steak. Wine. Butter. And a doctor to help me through that.

Dan: That was the last question

Anna: You made us so hungry!

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