24th November 2019

Pandemonium Con 2 – Luke Panel

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Moderator once again starts the panel by asking Luke to look both ways, not just to his left, where the question queue is, so everyone gets to look at his face from all angels

L: Halfway through, how about you give me a ‘hey!’ and I’m going to move over there?

Fan: Do you think Jonathan would have a parabatai, and if so, who?

Luke: Good question… (hesitates)

Fan: Do you think it would be Clary?

Luke: She’s not my biggest fan…

Fan: But if he turned good?

Luke: Probably not… who would be my parabatai?

Audience: Underhill!

Luke: Huh. Yeah. (pauses) or…

Audience: Sebastian, if you hadn’t killed him

Luke: Yes! Sebastian! And it would be funny, because it would be me and Will. So yes! Will’s my parabatai. There you go, I said it, it’s official. Someone go and immediately ask him.

Fan: What’s the best pick up line you’ve heard, received, or done?

Luke: (laughs) I mean… So, I genuinely don’t think anyone has ever tried picking me up (audience AWWWs) It’s just because I look creepy! It’s my face. (laughter) But there was a night out in Toronto… Dom and I went out… (Luke pauses and makes a face and everyone laughs) You know it’s going to be a good story. We’d gone to get dinner, it was like 9 o’clock and Dom’s like (In a British accent) ‘Mate, let’s go to a club!’ and I was like ‘Nah’ and he’s like ‘Yeah, yeah, it’s gonna be great!’ so we went to this full on club, and of course Dom wants to get a table. And you know that when you get a table in a club you have to buy a minimum of two bottles of alcohol. So he bought two bottles of I don’t even know what. And then he’s like ‘We need to invite some girls!’ and I’m just like ‘You know what? Knock yourself out…’ but Dom’s like ‘Those girls over there? Tell them to come to our table!’ and I’m like ‘NO!’ I would never in a million years walk up to a stranger. And he’s like ‘Just do it! Just pretend you’re in character!’ and I was like (Luke makes a scandalised face and everyone laughs)

Anyway, long story short he dared me to go up and tell them that ‘I’m so sorry’. And they would say ‘about what?’ and… (Luke stops, blushes, puts his face in his hands and takes a good 5 seconds to continue the story) and I would say ‘That you’re missing out on spending time with us.’

(audience whoops and cheers)

Luke: That is not what happened. I went over, and they were in the middle of a conversation and I literally walked up to them, walked around their table, and walked back to our table.

And Dom was like “You loser.”

That’s my best story.

Fan: If the creators of Shadowhunters gave you the opportunity to create your own character, what would it be?

Luke: I feel like a half Shadowhunter, half Warlock could be cool.  Obviously the most powerful being to ever exist. Actually, I could be 1/3 seelie, 1/3 warlock, 1/3 shadowhunter. But like, be a nice guy and just be really really powerful so no one could challenge me. And my name would be.. Xavier.

You’re welcome.

Fan: If you were offered to play Spike in the Buffy reboot, would you take it?

Luke: It’s so hard because that is one of the best shows ever made. I LOVED Buffy. And I would not want to ruin it. But I just don’t think I could say no, because I love it so much. And apparently Joss Whedon is involved in the remake, so I would trust that he would nail it. So yeah, I would take Spike in a heartbeat!

Fan: Was it difficult to play a villain?

Luke: Obviously, there were days where it’s hard once you leave the set. There’s days where you are strung up in a cell in a straight jacket and chains and you’re crying all day and that specific scene I’m thinking of where he’s like “You’ll never love me!” or actually, that wasn’t the line, it was “You’re supposed to me my princess!” – I said that line close to 60 times because we shot from so many different angels and you’re just screaming all day and you’re so exhausted by the time you leave.

When I did the film The Girl in the Photographs where I play a serial killer that was a lot more intense. It’s not a fun thing. Specially for someone like me. I hate any kind of violence so it’s really funny that I keep playing violent people. It feels like this ickiness you can’t get away from so you go home and you just want to shower and try and get rid of it, but it’s really hard. But at the same time, I love playing those characters, because there’s stuff going on, there’s something interesting, as opposed to that person that’s just always happy, which I’m not sure I could play, because I think I’d just get bored.

Young fan walks up to the microphone

Luke: Hiiii! How are you doing this morning Annie? (to audience) Annie is 10 years old.

Annie: Which character do you relate to most?

Luke: Great question! I think I relate most to Simon, specifically from the books. When I was reading them I thought that he’s a bumbling idiot, but in the best possible way. Don’t tell him I said that! But yeah, I think Simon. If it were a real world, that’s the person who I would be. With about 20% of Alec’s OCD.

Fan: What’s your honest opinion on Jonathan?

Luke: I don’t think that he really… (hesitates) Like, ok, look! I know that he’s evil. But I really don’t feel like… (hesitates, then glares at audience) I heard that! She said ‘excuses!’. Let me give you some excuses. He was injected with demon blood as a child. And here’s the thing, we talked about this just now in the Meet & Greet and like, when Dom was possessed by… hang on, not Dom! When Jace was possessed by the owl and did horrible things, we all gave him a free pass. And when Clary was under the influence of Jonathan, we all gave her a free pass. But I never got a f— free pass! He was injected with demon blood and then he was sent to hell to be tortured! Like, I know, it’s not ‘oh, poor Jonathan’, but I would have liked to see a world where he got the love that most people deserve.

It was really funny, when I met Jocelyn in the last episode when she comes back for the… you know, the doom prophecy (laughter) and our trailers were next to each other and I saw her name on the door and I was like ‘right’, and I stormed over and knocked on her door and was like ‘Hi I’m Luke!’ and she’s like ‘Oh, you’re playing Jonathan!’ and I’m like ‘Yeah. (agitated) Why did you give me up?!?’ and she’s like ‘Because you kept killing things!’ and I was like ‘Buy new things!’ and she goes ‘You killed our caretaker when you were ten’ and I was like ‘Well, maybe I didn’t know that was wrong!’

But seriously, I would have liked to see a world where we saw a bit more of that side. And maybe it’s just me, but I tend to believe the best in everyone, and obviously not everyone is redeemable, because some people have psychological issues that you can’t get away from, but I do think he wouldn’t be anywhere near as messed up if he had been raised by a loving family.

(AWWW)

Fan cosplaying Clary walks up to the microphone

Luke: I saw you walking across the street this morning as we were pulling up to the lot and I was like ‘That’s Clary!’ (laughter) If I had my phone to hand quick enough I would have taken a video.

Fan: If you could have any rune, where would you have it, what would it be, and why?

Luke: It would be an iratze and I would have it on my neck, just like in the show, because I think it’s really cool. It makes me feel tough, even though I’m not. And I would use it when I’m out drinking with my friends, like Dom, people who are going to force alcohol down my throat, I’d be able to run to the bathroom, activate it and I wouldn’t be drunk.

Fan: Surely it’s not a hardship to go out drinking with Dom Sherwood?

Luke: It is if you have to wake up the next morning!! But if I had the iratze, I could keep drinking and keep going to the bathroom and iratze myself, and keep drinking and going to the bathroom… Also I would be pretty much invincible, but that’s a side issue.

Fan: Who would you have liked to film more scenes with?

Luke: Harry for sure! (cheering) He was one of the first people who sat me down when I first joined the show and was like ‘Do you have any questions?’ and I’m like ‘How do I fight?’

I’m not the most coordinated person ever and I was so scared. And he gave me videos of martial artists to watch and he told me that I didn’t have to be technically proficient, I just had to look like I was and put my own flair on it. So I would have liked to work with him and I think that could have been a really cool story line as well.

Fan: You’re such a funny and easy going person

Luke: That’s subjective…

Fan: How did you get into Jonathan’s character? Especially that last scene with Clary.

Luke: Music, honestly… I mean, obviously you do a lot of research and I actually worked with this guy who was a psychologist that worked with the FBI to track serial killers and he profiles them. And I worked with him in 2015 for a film and when I went into this role I spoke to him again and asked what this person would be like… I obviously had to give him a real world example because it doesn’t quite work to say ‘so, he’s a demon…’

It was about finding out what kind of characteristics a person would have if they were tortured by a foster parent, if they had murdered someone when they were ten, all those sorts of things. And he painted a very precise picture for me of what Jonathan would be like in the real world. Even little things like the fact that he would have disassociation like, if I were to say hello and give you a hug you would go ‘hi, how are you’ and as a normal person I assume you would hug me back and think that was really nice. You wouldn’t think anything of it. Whereas Jonathan, because he’s never been hugged before, he would think that that was a romantic advance or he would think that this person was the love of his life. There’s this disconnect that happens.

So I did a lot of work and research around that and I knew a lot of the triggers for him but then to get into the headspace I had a playlist of music I would listen to every day, featuring such hits as ‘I miss you’ from Blink 182, cause nothing says emo like Blink 182. And there’s a song called ‘White Trash Hero’ by Archers of Loaf. I can literally listen to 10 seconds of that song and get really angry.

And there’s a Patsy Cline song, from the 50s or 60s and it’s one of the most beautiful songs in the world, it’s called ‘You Belong To Me’ and it’s all ‘I will travel the river Nile just to find you, you belong to me’ and all that, but if you listen to it as a sociopath, it’s so creepy! So I would listen to that before doing scenes with Kat and I would hear the lyrics repeat in my head. Seriously, go back and watch any of my scenes, but with that song playing and suddenly you’ll be like ‘oh wow, that’s why you’re a creep!’

Fan: What is the most emotionally or physically difficult thing for you as an actor?

Luke: Not counting any of the injuries I’ve had, because obviously that was really difficult to shoot, but otherwise I find it really hard when I have to be restrained in any way. Not just the straight jacket and chains, but also the scene where Jonathan comes in and smashes stuff in the apartment and falls to his knees and starts crying. That whole scene was choreographed in a way that meant I didn’t have a lot of freedom because I had to hit so many marks because of lighting. Basically, it’s easier to light half the stage than he whole stage, because we don’t have that many lights, so for that specific scene I had to hit all of these marks, smash the thing, hit a mark, start to cry, with my head at a 45 degree to the camera… and that was really difficult to do. You can cry and have a scene and have emotions, but when you are doing it and it’s so constrained by your surroundings and the technical elements of filming, it’s really hard.

I remember I did the scene and I felt good about it, and I’m on my knees and I’m in the middle of it and the directors like ‘No! More tears! And tilt your head to the right! Yeah! Yeah! No! Reeeally to the right! No! No! Get the light in your eyes!’ (Luke acts out straining his neck unnaturally while acting and crying) So that was all really hard.

The thing that was really funny about that scene was that we wrapped and I went to my trailer and started to get changed ready for the next scene and I get a call back and they asked me to do another take of that scene and I asked if they needed me to cry again and they said yes, and I’m like ‘are you sure?’ and they’re like ‘100%’ so I’m like ‘okay’. I put my head down again, getting to an emotional place, started crying and we shoot the scene again and they’re like ‘great, we got it!’ and afterwards the directors like ‘Why are you crying?’ and I’m like ‘What do you mean??’ and he says that they were shooting the back of my head… I thought I was going to kill someone. I’m actually going to kill someone.

Fan: Can you tell us how Kimberly-Sue dislocated your shoulder?

Luke: Ah, Kimberly-Sue. Love that girl! This is how you can tell that I genuinely like her. She dislocated my shoulder and I still love her.

It was an accident. Basically there was three reasons that it happened.

First, when I was doing the fight scene apparently my brain was telling my body to be elastic, because it was a lot of flowing movements. And then I went from doing flowy movements, to that jarring push. And my brain was still telling my body to be elastic. So that didn’t help.

The second thing was that they had readjusted me just before they called action. Camera had asked me to take a step to my right. Which would have been fine because she was meant to be coming at me front on, but when I took a step to the side, she was coming at me slightly from the side. So there was nothing to stop my arm from going that way because it wasn’t in front of my body anymore.

And then she was coming at more of a force than rehearsed because she was wearing heels.

So yeah, it was just a really bad combination of things.

Fan: Do you think Clary killed Jonathan with kindness or did she only kill his bad side?

Luke: I chose to believe that just after she left he woke up. Because I can make up whatever I want to. That’s the fun of being in a sci-fi show! I think that he woke up really confused, had no memory, looked around and saw all the dead bodies and just got up and started running. And then he made his way to New York because it’s Toronto and the closest major city is New York, I don’t know how, but he got across the border. And he’s just chilling in New York at the moment.

Fan: So you don’t think he’s a Shadowhunter anymore?

Luke: I think he might still have it inside of himself, the way Clary does, but he’s not aware of it.

Fan: In the book, there’s a scene with Clary and Jonathan from an alternate universe. Do you ever wish they included scenes like that, to see the other side of Jonathan?

Luke: So many! Yeah!

I also would have loved to have seen, and also have that challenge as an actor to play the moment where Jonathan met Sebastian. I would have loved to have scene that. I did try to talk Will into doing it just on my iPhone while we were in Paris… ‘We’re in Paris! Let’s go to the café! And we will film it!!’

Fan: It would have been nice to see the nature/nurture thing

Luke: Yes! And that would have been really interesting. Just the way that Clary was raised and the person Jocelyn was, that whole ‘liberal arts New Yorkers’, and Clary was raised by a single mum cos in my head Valentine’s still not there. I feel that would have been something that would have been great to see and given us a chance to really understand what it would have been like.

And it doesn’t happen in that alternate universe, but it would have been cool to see what would happen if it wasn’t me that was injected with demon blood, but Clary, and how that story would have gone down. Maybe on my 18^th birthday I would have found out that I was a Shadowhunter and I’d have really good hair, and go running through the streets going… (tosses hair like he’s in a l’oreal advert)

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24th November 2019

Pandemonium Con 2 – Parabatai Panel

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Parabatai Panel

Fan: Matt, can you do a British accent?

(audience yelling DO IT! GO ON! DO IT!!)

Matt: No! Reason one: Because I’m in a room full of a bunch of British people, and I have not prepared. And reason two: because I’m not doing it. I’m sorry. I won’t. I apologise. But ask me on the street and I’ll do it one on one with you. I do it all the time as I’m walking around, but I’m not doing it here.

(all throughout Matt’s answer he’s getting heckled by the audience daring him to do it and asking him to prove that he does it all the time)

Dom: This is British politics. Just kind of yelling at each other. You’re in the House of Lords explaining your point and this is what happens, people just yelling PROVE IT!

M: I’ve seen that on TV… because I’m allowed to. You guys aren’t. They can’t air it on TV in this country

D: That’s right

M: They can only watch it in my country, so I watch it when you guys can’t see it, so that’s on you..

D: Does that make you more British than American? NEXT QUESTION!

Fan: Who’s the better sibling, Izzy or Max?

M: Go to your parents and ask them which one of us do you love the most?

(audience yells, that we did ask that in the Nicola panel)

M: You asked?

D: What did she say?

Audience: She said it depends on the situation

D: There’s a correct answer to this! As much as we all make jokes about it, it is the adopted one, because she chose me!

M: I’m going to let that go because… I only have hate in my voice right now and I’m not going to sink to his level.

Fan: What’s your favourite thing about each other and what annoys you most?

M: My favourite thing about Dom is that he is fun to hang out with. He’s a good, nice, kind person. Thinks of others before himself. Probably a better man that I will ever be. (Audience awwwwws. Dom gets up and hands over £10 to a lot of laughter.)

M: And the thing that annoys me about Dom, is all of the above… (Laughter)

D: My favourite thing about Matt is… that he’s honest!

Fan: When you’re in the shower… what is your go to shower song?

(Dom and Matt both look scared at the beginning, then very relieved at the end of that question)

M: I liked the start of that question. When you guys are in the shower… and then it was harmless

D: It was all good in the end.

M: I have never listened to a song in the shower once in my life. I don’t think I have ever done it. Where is the music even coming from? Is it playing outside? Are you bringing a boom box into the shower? Do I bring my cell phone in and blast low quality tunes? No! I won’t do it and I object to the concept and I have to say that I will never do it!

D: I promise you that at least one of these questions we’re going to answer properly. We don’t know which one it’s going to be, but we will answer it properly.

Fan: Dom, have you ever played any regional characters from here in England?

D: Erm… no. Not… no. Just no.

M: He’d struggle doing the accent right

D: I haven’t… I… I… no. There’s no fun story or anecdote to that, it’s just a no. And Matt may be correct that I do a piss poor British accent so that’s it.

Fan: You sound a bit Mancunian in Don’t Speak

D: In Don’t Speak, where I was supposed to be American? Alright…

M: What?

D: They said I went a bit Mancunian in my accent in Don’t Speak, but he’s from Massachusetts so…

M: Oh, but they are very similar so that’s okay…

Fan: Can you do an impression of each other?

M: We get asked that every single time and we’re not doing it because it gets us in trouble, so we don’t do it

D: Last time we did it, the show got cancelled (audience howls with laughter)

Fan: Matt, if you played Jace do you think you would have done a better job?

M: Yes! (laughter) No, of course not! I lack the intrinsic narcissism to portray such a delightful, adopted, second favourite.

Fan: Well you did audition for him first… (laughter)

M: In the movie? Well… you take what you can get. You start with the bottom roles and you work your way up…

D: Anyway, thank you!

Fan: If you could have your favourite characters from various TV shows in one show, who would you have and what would it be about?

M: I would have the entire cast of Veep, and I would have them do more Veep. Is that an option? The take away from this is that I like the show Veep.

D: I would have the entire cast from Jersey Shore, but do Lost.

Fan: This question is for both of you

D: Playing the odds! Very nice!

Fan: We have this debate… When you sneeze, do you sneeze into your hands or your elbow?

(Matt pulls his sweater over his mouth and nose and mimes sneezing into it)

D: Yeah, you should see the inside of that!

(Matt laughs, then pats and rubs his chest, where all the snot would be)

M: I want to talk about sneezing for a second. I’m going to be very quick! When you sneeze, how many of you make a big loud sound? How many of you engage your vocal cords when you sneeze? I don’t understand it. You just let the air out. It should just be a ‘ssssss’ sound but instead you’re like ‘ACHOO!’ You said ‘achoo!’, it’s ridiculous. “I can’t control it… I sneeze and that’s what happens” But you said ACHOO! (agitated) Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!

D: I’m a very quiet sneezer and I sneeze into my hand. Thank you for the question.

M: You know you know someone when you hear them sneeze, and you go ‘Oh, its you’.

Fan: If you had your own brand of detergent, what would you name it and what would it smell off?

D: Mine… I could bottle it and sell it here and make an absolute fortune because I’d call mine ‘Matt Daddario’ (cheering)

M: What do I smell off? Describe me! Describe my scent.

(Dom leans over to sniff Matt and pretends to retch from the smell)

M: If you could turn that sound into a word, that would be the name of it. The sound of retching.

D: For everyone who is live tweeting this, I want them to come up with the actual written word for (Dom retches again)

(laughter)

M: I would name my detergent ‘No, you stink!’ and the smell would be somewhere between a person who just went for a run but wore deodorant and the smell of a dog’s paws after it’s been outside in the grass. And it’s called ‘No, you stink!’

D: Aaaaaand we’re done!

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3rd November 2019

Pandemonium Con 2 – Matt Daddario Panel

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The Matt panel included a lot of pre-organisation due to the fact that it had recently been Matthew’s birthday, and some fans had got him a cake, a birthday book, and planned to spell out ‘Happy 32^nd Birthday Matt’ with A4 paper, with animals on the back.

The plan… mostly worked.

Matt arrives on stage

Moderator: How are you feeling?

Matt: I’m feeling great!

Mod: Good. I’d just like to apologise in advance

Matt looks around the room, scared

Audience starts to sing happy birthday, as fans standing in a row along one wall hold up A4 paper with animals on, and another fan bring a caterpillar cake down the aisle to the stage. Matt hides his face in his hands. As the song finishes, the fans along the wall turn the paper around, to spell out HAPP 32^nd BIRTHDAY MAT, as the Y has gone missing and the T was in the Meet & Greet with Matthew and hasn’t got back to the panel room yet.

Matt: Okay, right away… number 3 and number 2, let’s switch you around…

Matt takes in the cake

Matt: First of all thank you. That was very very sweet. I do have a little thing I want to say… that a birthday is an opportunity once a year where everyone around you gets to just yell at you and you just sit and be quiet. You sit there and you say (quietly) ‘Thank you. Thank you.’, in this moment where everyone is looking at me. That’s what happens.

And I love this caterpillar cake. I assume it is edible? Shall we cut it?

Mod: It’s for you to take

Matt: Oh. I have to take it to green room? Okay. (to audience) Unless you guys want cake?

Mod: I think they want to ask you questions…

Matt: Okay, we won’t discuss happy birthday any further but whoever was responsible for all this… I’ll get you later!

Mod: We do have one more little thing for you

Matt: No, why? No, no… why!?! It’s not fair…

Mod: The fans asked because they love you, what did you want me to do. Say no?

Matt: Okay, okay, okay, fine…

Matt is presented with a gift and his birthday book

Matt: I’m literally sweating right now!

Mod: I hear it’s pretty amazing, I’m sure you’ll love it

Matthew wipes sweat from his brow and sighs loudly

Mod: I’ve not seen it myself but I think it’s –

Matt: Is anyone here actually comfortable on their birthday? Do you want gifts? YES! I deserve these gifts! Also sing me my birthday song right now! Put fire on top of a sugary treat and I will blow it out and then the gods will grant me a wish! HAPPY BIRTHDAY ME!

Mod: This is from 5 or 6 people..

Matt: 5 or 6? That’s 5 or 6 too many! Birthdays should be spend ALONE. In a cave so people can’t come at you and sing the song! – – Actually it should be a game! It should be that on your birthday everyone just tries to hunt you. So at any given time 1/365^th of the population is hiding. And some percentage of the rest are hunting. Every day would be way more interesting.

Mod: We’ll do that next year! You will hide and we’ll hunt you

Matt: But you know where I am

Mod: Maybe you should wear a disguise or something?

Matt: Ah yes… I’ll be the one with the mask on

Mod: Well, thank you everyone who was involved in this!

Matt: Thank you guys, really, thank you

Mod: everyone who has questions, line up as discussed before please. (to Matt) Did you think that all those people wanted to ask questions when you came in?

Matt: Well, I was like ‘I hate to say it, but I don’t see it happening…’

Everyone starts to get back to their seat. Matt takes a deep breath and exhales loudly

Matt: So that’s done now… maybe afterwards we can do something equally as fun, like getting your teeth drilled…

Fan: If Magnus is angry, what does Alec do to make the situation better?

Matt: It depends on the situation. Why is Magnus angry? …like any other good person, he evaluates the source of the anger, then seeks a non-violent way to discuss what might be the underlying problem, and then they come to a… a… what’s the word I’m looking for?

Audience: Compromise

Matt: …they figure it out. And before you know it, they’re right back to being happy with each other, because what’s the point? What are you going to be all angry about, anyway? I’m 32. Time keeps marching on towards that end. If I’m going to spend any of it angry, (points at audience) it’s going to be with you.

I’m kidding. Some of you were going ‘whoa!’ and I want to make something very clear here. I’m being sarcastic. And I really appreciate the birthday. And I like the song, it’s touching. But you know… I get awkward.

But there you go. Thank you very much. I’ve solved the problem. Next question!

Mod: Can I ask you, while you are talking, can you make sure to look at the right side of the room as well (the question queue is on the left) because they’re saying that this side of your face is really ugly, so they’d like you to turn around

Matt: Aha! I knew it!

Mod: Obviously they’re not saying that, it’s just that the queue is over here, so try and look both ways

Matt: Actually, that’s a good point and very good practice… for… other times I am going to be speaking on a stage. (laughter) Okay, next question. (Matt dramatically turns away from the question queue towards his right and stares at the audience on that side)

Fan: How many dates did it take before AU Malec became a couple?

Matt: How do you know they became a couple? (audience protests) Okay, okay… How many dates would it take? I mean… what really is a couple? When are you really a couple? Is it after the first time you went to dinner? It all depends on what happens in the future! Because the reality is that if you see someone day 1, and then you get married 3 years later, then you were technically a couple from day 1. Unless there were some other things going on. I hope there weren’t! (Matt stops to think about it)

There weren’t! Of course there weren’t! So they were a couple since the first time they met.

However if they take some sort of ongoing break somewhere along the line, then the time starts again, so it all depends on what happens in the future. But in the moment, you would say ‘we’re a couple’ after you’ve been on some dates. Do you know what I mean? It’s like… history is what happened, right?

Fan: So they’re married, too?

Matt: You are looking for iron clad confirmation on whether they are married in the alternate universe? Well… The only constant in the multi-dimensional Shadowhunters universe is that Magnus and Alec are married in every single one of them. (Audience cheers)

And that Clary is difficult… NEXT!

Fan: What is the most anticipated thing on your birthday?

Matt: I really like it when everybody sings the song… (laughter)

I like that on your birthday you kind of get a pass from each person you meet. You can go and steal a loaf of bread and if they catch you, you say ‘it’s my birthday’ and they go ‘In that case this one’s on us!’.

Also in your personal relationships, you also get a pass. That’s the day when no one gets to be mad at you. They have to bite their tongue, which gives you an opportunity to antagonise them. You can go ‘I don’t really like the food you’ve prepared for me’ and they’ll go (through clenched teeth) ‘oh, I’m so sorry’ and because it’s your birthday, they can’t say anything.

You get to be special for one day a year. And the rest of the time you are just… normal.

That’s what I like the most (turns to audience and whispers) THE POWER….

Fan: If you could live as any Disney character for one day, who would you pick?

Matt: I mean… Disney owns half the universe right now. I think they own like 55% of the entire entertainment space right now, so my options include all of the Star Wars universe, which is pretty great. I assume you are talking about the original Disney. The big 6. Lion King, Aladdin, that kind of things… I would be the hyenas in Lion King. They have a dope thing going on. They are completely insane and they seem to be enjoying themselves all the time, laughing, rolling on their backs. So that’s who I would be.

Fan: If you had to give up your bow and arrow, what would be your next weapon of choice?

Matt: I know there’s going to be some objections to this, but if my goal is to kill things and that is my job – if it is literally in my job title, shadow-HUNTER – I would probably move to a more effective version of a bow and arrow. They’ve been around for a little while now. They’re called guns. Alec could probably benefit from having one. There’s some reasoning that it doesn’t work, but Luke has a gun and he saves the day a couple of times with it. I know that it doesn’t really work, because the show is demonic but… a gun.

If there’s a demon, your problem is solved, pull out your gun, just shoot it. Done.

(Fan says thank you and tries to leave, but Matt isn’t done)

Matt: And then we had those anti aircraft guns in Idris! Right at the end. Did you see those? Obviously guns are available and solved some problems, so… guns. Terrible thing, but they are effective at killing.

Fan: If you could transform into any animal, what would it be?

Matt: Any animal? Any animal at all? But I have to choose only one? I mean, there’s an obvious answer to the questions and that’s the killer whale. You have a whole bunch of friends. Top of the food chain. You get to kill sharks for fun. You play around and you’re basically a murderous psychopath but everyone thinks you’re just so cute. (Simpering voice) ‘oh it’s so cute. You see how it killed that seal and played with its dead body? It’s so amazing!’

That’s actually true for most of the animal kingdom. (awed) ‘See that owl? See how it’s tearing that animal to shreds? So beautiful… It’s just beautiful. Nature is just beautiful.’

People go on safaris and they see the reality of what nature is, which is horrifying… I don’t know if this story is true or not, but I like it anyway. Darwin was a religious man and what made him question god was the parasitic wasp. No one looks at the parasitic wasp’s larva crawling out of the paralysed host body of a cockroach and goes ‘AWESOME! That’s so good! What a beautiful thing!’ No, you say ‘Ew! It makes my skin crawl!’

One time I caught a fish and its tongue had been replaced by a type of parasite that latches on and eats and replaces the fishes tongue and I swear I almost vomited. To see it was abhorrent. Then again some people who love parasitic creatures would say ‘aaaaah, what a find! Yes! Amazing!’ And it WAS cool, I mean I’m still talking about it now..

So I guess the answer to your question is that the great thing about being in the animal kingdom is that when you are not getting brutally killed by something, you are brutally killing something and then humans go ‘wow! I want to film you!’ so… killer whale is the answer. I may have gone off topic… Parasitic wasp.

Someone’s going to tweet this and say ‘Matt just really wanted to be a killing creature’. And just to be clear, that’s not what I was saying. I was saying I wanted to be a parasitic wasp. Thank you.

Fan: If you could make your own TV show, what would it be about?

Matt: You all know the answer, so I have to change my answer.. I like the idea of a space cowboy! A  guy who is operating outside the law. The Wild West is now outer space and he has a ship which is his horse, etc etc

Audience: Like Firefly?

Matt: Basically, yes! Same idea. But then again any space show, even Star Trek, was essentially just ‘Here’s a new town’ every episode, and we just use space as an excuse and discuss futuristic topics, which are very popular these days. So yes, it would be something that takes place in space.

Maybe it could be a space nature show. … That goes horrible wrong! And someone gets eaten by a parasitic wasp on another planet. That’s 20 feet tall and drags you off to his lair. (Matt looks at the fan who asked the question) You’re too young to know about parasitic wasps!

Do they still have the Discovery Channel showing animal shows on there? That was my favourite show on TV when I was a kid. But you have a different appreciation for it when you are older, when they stop giving you nothing but Steve Irvin, may he rest in peace, with his alligators. That’s a great show! You should fine that and watch all of it. It’s the best!

Fan: You were great as Pennywise in IT Chapter 2

Matt: Thank you. I know I did great. I was just there for the scenes where he was contorted, not the rest.

Fan: If you could be any member of the losers club, which one would you be, other than Mike?

Matt: aaaaaah man… The answer is Mike. Anything else would be a lie. It would be Mike, cause he’s who I like the most.

I don’t know who I’d be. They’re all so damaged. I haven’t read the book in so long, so I don’t know who I’d be. From the film though… I don’t know… Mike! Or Jessica Chastain’s character. I like her too.

Has everyone seen IT2? You all have to go and see it and support Isaiah. It only made like a billion dollars, so it needs some support.

Fan: I have two questions. What pizza do you like more – Italian Pizza or New York Slice?

Matt: What’s the second questions? I want to see if I can combine them

Fan: Where is your favourite place to get a New York Slice in New York?

Matt: Right. Italian pizza and New York pizza are two different things. It’s like comparing two things that cannot be compared. Do you like apples or oranges? I like both, for different reasons. Same as New York pizza vs Italian pizza. Italian pizza normally has better ingredients and I like the paper thin bread. Not crunchy, but soft.

My favourite place to get NY pizza was on 84^th and Lex and I’d go there constantly and they closed a few years back. They were taken over by another place that actually sells pretty good pizza.

The best place to have a slice of pizza in New York is the place that’s closest to you. The point of pizza in New York is that it is there to feed you. You want food? You hungry? Pizza! There! One slice! Here! Money? Take! Great! Done!

That’s the best thing about pizza. It’s easy and it’s right there and you can eat it while you walk. And if you sit down while you eat it? Then… then… shame! Shame on you! Walk with it! Fold it in half! You get your metro card out and you swipe, still eating the pizza. Got oil dripping out the back? You’re an amateur. You have to be able to handle where the oil goes. You have to hold it really tight and balance it and know when it’s leaky, because you can tell instinctively.

Fan: What if you drop your metro card?

Matt: Pick it up! Why are you dropping your metro card? Ridiculous! Your scenario is nuts. If you drop your metro card, you know what, you’re not taking the subway, you’re walking!

Matt: And by the way, here’s a little tip.. not my most secret tip. Maybe one day I will release that one, because no one seems to know that tip, so that’s something to hold over your heads now. But the other secret tip is: If you see a metro card on the ground in a location that does not make sense, then it has money on it.

Audience: Duh…

Matt: Oh, so people know that? Good!! The key place is outside the entrance because someone went to get their wallet out or put the card back in their wallet, and it fell. And if you are a student in New York or an actor who doesn’t have any work and you have no money, you pick it up.

Now, if you’re a little older it’s no longer appropriate… So I just make sure that nobody is looking.

Fan: If Shadowhunters was the Hunger Games, who do you think would win?

Matt: (instantly) Alec would win! (laughter)

Obviously, this kind of conversation is really frustrating, because everything gets ruined by the god element, which is that the warlocks are     unstoppable machines and Magnus is one of the best one, if not the best, so Magnus wins. It’s not even a close call.

Fan: Would Magnus save Alec?

Matt: I mean, it’s the Hunger Games…

Fan: Would he let Alec win?

Matt: But then you’ve got a problem. Because would Alec let Magnus win. So now we’ve entered into an issue so the only answer is, WE’VE GOT TO DESTROY THE SYSTEM. They have to work together and kill the bosses… I’m guessing that that’s what happens in the Hunger Games?

Audience: Yep

Matt: (big sigh) Surprise surprise…

Fan: Where do you think Malec went on their honey moon?

Matt: Where didn’t they go? They went everywhere! If you are not limited by travel time or financial concerns because, as I made pretty clear, he’s essentially married to a god, so yeah, they went everywhere. In fact for breakfast they went to one place, and then they decide they want to go to a museum in New York and then they want to get some food from a specific place in Hong Kong and they do all of that before 1pm because there is no limit to what they can do.

Like, let’s think about your house. It has various rooms, but if I set up a permanent portal and leave it in a doorway, then I walk from one room to the other and I actually have homes in 20 different places. I walk into the living room and I’m on the moon. I’m watching TV on the moon, I walk to the kitchen and get a glass of water and I’m in New York, I look outside and think ‘huh’ because my bedroom is all the way in China.  You ever read the book Hyperion? It has a similar concept. It’s a good book. The first two, anyway. … End of discussion. Next question!

Fan: What’s the best pick up line you’ve heard, received, and used

Matt: What’s the best pick up line? The best pick up line is ‘Hello, my name is ____, what is your name?’ – That one works in pretty much every social situation.

Fan: Yeah but that’s an introduction

Matt: What is a pick up line other than an introduction? A pick up line implies something. It’s in introduction with an implication of further interaction. And the interaction is of a certain type. So if I came up and I went like so (makes monkey noises and arm gestures) that’s a pick up line, right? It’s pretty clear what I want, I think? Although for some others… like, check out what the giraffes do. It’s weird. Or what the gorillas do. It’s also pretty weird. Every animal has their own pick up line and usually it’s a little bit aggressive.

Now if I come up to you and say ‘Hi, hello, my name is Matt, and your name is, and then you say your name’ except you say ‘you know what, I have no idea where this is going, because you didn’t use a pick up line, so obviously it’s just an introduction. Now we are done. We have been introduced! End of discussion! Goodbye!’

No! An introduction in a setting implies what’s happening so you don’t need a pick up line. If I’m in a bar and I come up to you and I say ‘Hello my name is Matt’ and you say –

Fan: I’m Mercedes

Matt: And then you say ‘Oh this must be a pick up’ but you are wrong, because you didn’t look at the wedding ring!

(Audience goes crazy with whooping and cheering) …but in any other situation the pick-up is implied, and anything other than hello is silliness or cockamamie narcissism.

Fan leaves and Matt shouts ‘love you’ after her.

Fan: You mentioned in an interview that you crashed into a wedding and my question is how did you crash into said wedding?

Matt: I crashed into a wedding? Me? So just to be clear… I said in a public interview that I went to someone else’s special affair and said ‘S’up? I’m gonna eat your food. Looks great. Can I be part of your special day?’ and they said ‘You know what, this isn’t about us. This is about you, random guy!’ – And I was proud of that?

Are you sure I wasn’t making up some sort of humours anecdote like me wanting to be a parasitic wasp? Because I don’t – TO BE CLEAR – want to be a parasitic wasp. Just as much as I would never crash a wedding. Just as much as I would never steal a loaf of bread. These are all hypothetical things that I made up over the course of the day. And maybe tomorrow I will believe half of them. Maybe tomorrow half of your groups of twitter people will believe it because you put it on the internet as fact. ‘Matt says he steals loaves of bread.’ And ‘Matt says he’s a parasitic wasp.’

Just to be clear – we are going back to the situational learning – Anything I have said here is likely untrue.

So no. I didn’t do that. But that’s who I hope to be some day. He sounds like a good guy

Fan: If Alec was a social media influencer what would be – –

Matt: In the Shadow world or the existing world?

Fan: Could be either

Matt: Either way, he’s going to take butt photos.

Fan: Okay, but my question is what platform would he use?

Matt: Ah! I presumed the end of your question and I went the wrong direction with my answer.

What platform would he use? Erm… printed media is doing great. Newspapers. Magazines.

Fan: But what about social media?

Matt: Isn’t a newspaper social media? It’s just really slow… People write their opinion. ‘Last week you said XYZ and that made me angry!’ – it’s basically a message board, just a lot slower. Does social media have to be immediate? On social media nowadays you make friends with someone like this (clicks fingers) and now you’re my friend, because we share interests.

But really, I think things were better back in the old days. Since I’m 82, I don’t know if you know that, but I know this… There was a time when there was no internet. And you weren’t allowed to be friends with someone immediately. It took days! In fact you had to write to the newspaper and check out the situation.

‘John from down the street, I bumped into you at the laundromat. It seemed like you might be a good guy. You like football, I like basketball. Those are some shared interest.’ – And then John writes back to the newspaper and says ‘Yes, those are shared interests, but I am not interested.’ – Seven days wasted! Making friends back then was very difficult.

Anyway… Printed media, that’s the future!

Fan: Are you implying that you would make friends through printed media?

Matt: No, I am implying that Alec is out of touch. But yes, he would make lots of friends and then he’d be… y’know… all over the papers.

Fan: Thank you (tries to leave, but Matthew continues)

Matt: Is that still a saying? He’s all over the papers? Now you just say ‘Ah, he’s on Instagram! And…. he posts photos.’ – ‘Of what?’ they ask – ‘Erm… him? Sometimes him, with something?’

Fan: Okay, thank you (edging away)

Matt: I’m positive that I answered that appropriately!

Last question. Fan talks about the autograph session on Saturday and the message Matt wrote on her DVD for someone and that Kat posted a little video for this person, and she phoned and told the recipient about the messages, who has not stopped crying since…

Matt: The take away is that Kat made him cry!

Fan: You really made him smile, so thank you for that. My question: Yesterday Dom said that his time with Shadowhunters was finished and he wouldn’t come back for a season 4. Do you feel the same way?

Audience collectively groans and grumbles.

Matt: Okay, first of all Dom is doing.. what’s it called?

Audience: Penny Dreadful

Matt: No, I obviously know that! So yes, Dom is doing a TV show called Penny Dreadful and none of you have ever even heard of it. So he’s doing the thing when… what is it called when you say ‘Well, even if the show came back, I wouldn’t have done it anyway’ – what do you call that psychological method?

Audience shouts various terminology at Matt

Matt: Something. Whatever. The point is he didn’t mean it. If he even said that, which I am questioning. And I? Would I come back for season 4?

Fan: If the role was right and the time was right and what was going on in your life…

Matt: The thing is, the show ended… If we’d continued it would have been different and yes, obviously. But the show has ended, so coming back would be strange. I mean, you could see something in the long run, maybe… it would require some thoughts, and it would depend on the material

Fan: Yes, so if the story was right and you felt it was right and…

Matt: Well, if the story is right and you feel it is right, that’s cool, and the budget was 250 million dollars and it’s directed by Martin Scorsese, then yeah. (laughter) But that’s the optimal case.

I would also accept lesser situations.

Fan: When Dom said that yesterday I think it upset a lot of people, so..

Matt: Who? Dom upset people?

Fan: Yes

Matt: Kat made your son cry. Dom upset people. Seems that I’m the only one who saves the day… (laughter)

Look here… You enjoyed the show, right? They managed to wrap it up. We didn’t get hit like Santa Clarita Diet did. So many shows didn’t get what we got. Deadwood? Just done! Rome? Done!

We got an ending. And for that, I am grateful…

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3rd November 2019

Pandemonium Con 2 – Chai Hansen Panel

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Once again, we missed the beginning of this panel due to other things overlapping, walking in halfway through Chai answering a question – we presume – on his favourite books, where he explained that he reads a lot of philosophical stuff such as ‘The Power of Now’ and ‘The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari’, however he is not part of Rosende Reads and hilariously couldn’t understand the fan who asked him, because he didn’t remember the name of Alberto’s bookclub, but we are not allowed to tell Alberto that.

Here’s everything else we can remember from the panel with Chai Hansen

Fan: How are you feeling?

Chai: A lot better, thank you! (to audience) Yesterday I wasn’t feeling the best. I had a stomach bug. But today I feel a lot better. I had a good night’s sleep. Also I travelled from Australia to be here so that’s a 28 hour flight just for you guys… (crowd: AWWWW)

Fan: If you were stranded on a deserted island with one member of the cast, who would you pick?

Chai: Probably Alberto (everyone laughs, because we’re all aware of his huge bro-crush) or Dom, because they’re both quite funny. And as Jordan it would be Maia because… yeah.

Fan: This is for my little sister, who just had to leave to go and see Luke..

Audience: laughs

Chai: Luke, is it…? Riiight….

Fan: My sister grew up with Mako Mermaid and wanted to know how hard it was to work with the tail and to swim with it and everything

Chai: That was the first job I ever got leading… even just acting really. And I was really nervous going into it. I’d had coaching sessions from the acting side, but then I was told I’d be doing all of this in a tail, and we’re just going to throw you in the water. And I was like ‘Oh okay! Cool! …am I going to drown?’ And they go ‘No, no, no, you’ll be fine! We’ve got a couple of stunties there so if you do drown, they’ll get you out, and they know CPR. You’ll be fine!’ – ‘Oh okay. Cool. Okay…’ – ‘Also… mind the sharks and sting rays.’ – – Cause we’re filming this whole thing in Seaworld, so I got to swim with actual sharks and sting rays. With a tail. And you could see the sharks and the sting rays be like ‘What is that?!?’

So yeah, it was daunting to begin with but then it’s like riding a bike. You get used to is and it starts to be really fun, because you could really swim with it. And then for the next season, the tails were made differently. They were a lot more flexible and the movement was more organic. Jason – a friend of mine – who created the tails worked on each tail for about 8 weeks, to get it to be perfect and in the new tails he put a lot more silicon in, which made them flow like it was a real tail. So I learnt to swim really well in it and actually became a better swimmer from having this tail on.

It was a really good experience and I thoroughly enjoyed working on Mako and every season got better than the last one and I hope they do another season now… and ask me back… that would be great.

Fan: Jordan’s life was cut short by the silver poisoning. How do you see his life with Maia going, if that hadn’t happened?

Chai: The thing that he was obsessed with was forgiveness. Not necessarily being with Maia, but being forgiven by Maia. So I think if he got it and felt that he got it from her, he may have left her alone…? I’ve thought about it for a while, and I’m not sure if he got the forgiveness he needed. He got it narratively. He got it in the story, but that’s not the same as actually believing it, and I’m not sure he believe it until maybe right at the end, when he sacrificed himself. To me, that was his penance.

If he had survived, after having sacrificed himself, he may have finally moved on. What do you guys think? Did you want to see Jordan with Maia? (everyone pretty unanimously says no) Yeah, same. He was obsessive about it the entire time. The fact that he ran away from this huge thing meant that he was fixated on her. One of my notes from back then said ‘Why?’ – Why did you do this? Why did you run away? And for me.. you don’t know what you’re going to do until something like this happens. I was talking about ‘fight or flight’ with someone yesterday and it’s either one or the other, but you don’t know which one, until it happens to you. And for him it was ‘flight’. So I think he was trying to prove himself by going back and showing that he could be ‘fight’. So yeah, I remember writing ‘Why did you do that?’ and then trying to figure it out, and some people just react differently in different situations. I read Jordan’s part of the book and he’s a lot more guarded in the book, we know less about him, so I tried to approach this with a bit more sensitivity. I had fun with it but it was also really difficult to be that kind of person, because you actually have to go there as an actor…

Someone said yesterday ‘I wish Jordan smiled more’ and hey, yeah, me too! I wish he smiled more. But he wears his heart heavy on his sleeve and that was kind of my approach to Jordan. I look around at all of you and I think in this situation, probably most of you would have fought, and that’s probably the normal response, but it’s all speculation. You just don’t know until you’re in that situation.

Fan: Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Even just in an argument, when you walk away, and then think ‘Damn it! I should have said this!!’

Chai: Oh my god all the time!! Or even after this, I’ll go to the Green Room and think ‘Ah man, it would have been so funny if I’d said this, instead of that. They would have laughed so hard…’

Michelle: Just tweet it after!

Chai: Yes, I will tweet it… so… watch my twitter later.

Fan: What are your goals for your next show or movie?

Chai: I love fantasy and action. And comedy. I’m quite funny … Tough it depends on whether you think I’m funny. I think I’m funny. Sometimes. Anyway. I would like to do more fantasy action TV shows. That’s where I see myself. I also want to play a young Jack Sparrow. (Audience whoops). That would be cool. It’s probably not gonna happen but… shoot for the stars!

Chai: What do you think?

Fan: What do I see you playing? The feeling I get from you in Shadowhunters and you generally is about being protective, so roles in which you’re a big brother, a security guard, you protect and care for people…

Audience: aww

Chai: I feel that that is my nature

Fan: I feel it’s very clear from the way you act, from the way you speak, from the way you talk to people, that you are that person

Chai: *melts*

Chai: Thank you so much! – – I was raised by my mother. She taught me well. I live by empathy. I lead with my heart and I have never gone wrong by doing that. If you give 100% of your heart and soul, you can never go wrong. I believe in that.

Fan: What is it like to play Sun WuKong, a character that is as historically significant as him, in Legends of Monkey and if you could choose another character like that (Shakespearean, Histporical, Roman Gods, something that’s so important and has been adapted so many times) what would it be?

Chai: Some have called him the Asian Jesus… (laughs). I did a lot of research. I am so honoured to be playing Sun WuKong. When I got the audition I was freaking out because I just had to get this. I watched Dragonball Z as a kid. I know all about Journey to the West. I read the book. It’s an amazing book by the way, it’s really funny and dark. So I knew a lot about it before I got the audition. My mum was a massive fan of Monkey Magic, which is what Legens of Monkey was influenced by, so I just had to get this role. I put everything into this audition and then I did a fight scene audition and because of my breakdancing background, I had the upper hand in that regard. And then I ended up getting the role, which I still can’t believe to this day. I was super honoured and I went into study research mode. I re-read the book. I watched all the adaptations. I tried to incorporate Goku and Vegeta in little way in my Monkey, that people may not notice if they watch the show but… I’m freaking honoured. I love this show. And I might… be doing… a second season… who knows. Maybe I’ll tell you later…

If I could do another show like this… (Chai then mentioned a character we’d never heard of, and doesn’t mention what this character is from – grateful for anyone who remembers this bit and has any information) — it’s Comedy/Action. I’m a huge fan of Jackie Chan so anything that puts comedy into action would be a dream come true. So yeah, anything Comedy/Action I would die to do.

Fan: I’m Australian

Chai: Oh! Where abouts??

Fan: Brisbane!

Chai: (over excited) I’ve lived in Brisbane! Jordan’s from Brisbane!

Fan: Me and my friend have this debate… is it data [deɪtə] or data [dɑːtɑː]

Chai: It’s data [dɑːtɑː], obviously! We were talking about this other word yesterday. Do you say Schedule (pronouncing the ‘sch’ as in ‘school’) or schedule (pronouncing the ‘sch’ as in ‘schmuck’)

Chai gets the audience to vote, pretty much everyone pronounces the c in schedule. He wants to know if that means it’s an English thing. Moderator says she’s English and no. So Chai concludes that it’s an American thing. The American in the audience say no. Chai gives up.

Fan: Also, I don’t surf, so I hardly count as Australian…

Chai: Poor you… You’ve got an English passport tough, right? So you’ll be okay. You can come and visit Australia sometimes… (laughter) No, seriously though.. my sister doesn’t surf either. And I.. look down on her, too. (laughter)

Fan: I started watching The 100 because of you

Chai: YES!

Fan: But then you spoiled your death for me… So I was wondering… how long after a TV show is off air is too long to tell someone off for spoilering

Chai: What does that mean? Spoilering?

Audience explains

Chai: Ooooh… Oh I see… Right… I remember when I first posted it there were a few people that were like ‘WHAT?!?’ and I just thought… ‘but it happened like a year ago?’ – Maybe that’s too early? I don’t know! What do you think is a good time? Maybe you should just never post… until you’re a grandfather and then… but then I think I’m going to spoil it for my grandkids, too!

Fan: You’re still one of the best characters in the show tough

Chai: Really? Thank you so much!

It was a really tough role to approach because the first thing was just me killing my parents… oh. Spoiler! (laughter) But yeah, it was really hard. I thought that I don’t know how to do this well… (at this point, Chai brings the microphone to his face properly and is amazed at how his voice sounds actually amplified and realises he’s not been using his mic properly for the entire rest of the panel. He asks if people at the back can hear him with and without microphone. They say yes. He points out that it’s a good thing he’s not at a stadium….) Note to self: Talk into the microphone!

So when I first got the job I was trying to work out how to approach this because it’s so hard. And really I was just… winging it. But it was such a fun role, because it was the first role away from Mako. I went from a kids show, playing a mermaid to killing my parents. Isn’t that the funniest thing ever?

It was the first thing I did was adult and darker material and I had a lot of fun doing it, even though it was hard, so when someone says they really like my character it’s such a relief because as an actor you’re kind of thrown in and hope for the best and then you get this support and you realise ‘I did good’

So yeah, thank you all so much for the support. And that’s with everything that I do but of course Shadowhunters. The #SaveShadowhunters thing – I’d never seen that on any other show to his extend. It is so beautiful and I feel so lucky to be a part of this.

Moderator: That’s a good place to end it. You have to go, because you have quite a lot of things to do

Chai: But I want to stay here

Mod: I know, but the organisers are going to think it’s my fault and I’ll get in trouble

Chai: It is your fault!

Mod: (Gasps)

Amongst the (fake) offence, whooping, laughter and cheering, Chai is eventually persuaded to leave the stage because he did indeed have a lot of other things to do that day. What a kind, genuine guy. Delightful, as always. ]

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