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Moderator once again
starts the panel by asking Luke to look both ways, not just to his left, where
the question queue is, so everyone gets to look at his face from all angels
L: Halfway through, how about you give me a ‘hey!’ and I’m
going to move over there?
Fan: Do you think
Jonathan would have a parabatai, and if so, who?
Luke: Good question… (hesitates)
Fan: Do you think it would be Clary?
Luke: She’s not my biggest fan…
Fan: But if he turned good?
Luke: Probably not… who would be my parabatai?
Audience: Underhill!
Luke: Huh. Yeah. (pauses)
or…
Audience: Sebastian, if you hadn’t killed him
Luke: Yes! Sebastian! And it would be funny, because it
would be me and Will. So yes! Will’s my parabatai. There you go, I said it, it’s
official. Someone go and immediately ask him.
Fan: What’s the best
pick up line you’ve heard, received, or done?
Luke: (laughs) I
mean… So, I genuinely don’t think anyone has ever tried picking me up (audience AWWWs) It’s just because I
look creepy! It’s my face. (laughter)
But there was a night out in Toronto… Dom and I went out… (Luke pauses and makes a face and everyone laughs) You know it’s
going to be a good story. We’d gone to get dinner, it was like 9 o’clock and Dom’s
like (In a British accent) ‘Mate, let’s go to a club!’ and I was like ‘Nah’ and
he’s like ‘Yeah, yeah, it’s gonna be great!’ so we went to this full on club,
and of course Dom wants to get a table. And you know that when you get a table
in a club you have to buy a minimum of two bottles of alcohol. So he bought two
bottles of I don’t even know what. And then he’s like ‘We need to invite some
girls!’ and I’m just like ‘You know what? Knock yourself out…’ but Dom’s like ‘Those
girls over there? Tell them to come to our table!’ and I’m like ‘NO!’ I would
never in a million years walk up to a stranger. And he’s like ‘Just do it! Just
pretend you’re in character!’ and I was like (Luke makes a scandalised face and everyone laughs)
Anyway, long story short he dared me to go up and tell them
that ‘I’m so sorry’. And they would say ‘about what?’ and… (Luke stops, blushes, puts his face in his
hands and takes a good 5 seconds to continue the story) and I would say ‘That
you’re missing out on spending time with us.’
(audience whoops and
cheers)
Luke: That is not what happened. I went over, and they were
in the middle of a conversation and I literally walked up to them, walked
around their table, and walked back to our table.
And Dom was like “You loser.”
That’s my best story.
Fan: If the creators
of Shadowhunters gave you the opportunity to create your own character, what
would it be?
Luke: I feel like a half Shadowhunter, half Warlock could be
cool. Obviously the most powerful being
to ever exist. Actually, I could be 1/3 seelie, 1/3 warlock, 1/3 shadowhunter.
But like, be a nice guy and just be really really powerful so no one could challenge
me. And my name would be.. Xavier.
You’re welcome.
Fan: If you were offered
to play Spike in the Buffy reboot, would you take it?
Luke: It’s so hard because that is one of the best shows
ever made. I LOVED Buffy. And I would not want to ruin it. But I just don’t
think I could say no, because I love it so much. And apparently Joss Whedon is
involved in the remake, so I would trust that he would nail it. So yeah, I
would take Spike in a heartbeat!
Fan: Was it difficult
to play a villain?
Luke: Obviously, there were days where it’s hard once you
leave the set. There’s days where you are strung up in a cell in a straight
jacket and chains and you’re crying all day and that specific scene I’m
thinking of where he’s like “You’ll never love me!” or actually, that wasn’t
the line, it was “You’re supposed to me my princess!” – I said that line close
to 60 times because we shot from so many different angels and you’re just
screaming all day and you’re so exhausted by the time you leave.
When I did the film The Girl in the Photographs where I play
a serial killer that was a lot more intense. It’s not a fun thing. Specially
for someone like me. I hate any kind of violence so it’s really funny that I
keep playing violent people. It feels like this ickiness you can’t get away
from so you go home and you just want to shower and try and get rid of it, but
it’s really hard. But at the same time, I love playing those characters,
because there’s stuff going on, there’s something interesting, as opposed to
that person that’s just always happy, which I’m not sure I could play, because
I think I’d just get bored.
Young fan walks up to
the microphone
Luke: Hiiii! How are you doing this morning Annie? (to audience) Annie is 10 years old.
Annie: Which
character do you relate to most?
Luke: Great question! I think I relate most to Simon,
specifically from the books. When I was reading them I thought that he’s a
bumbling idiot, but in the best possible way. Don’t tell him I said that! But
yeah, I think Simon. If it were a real world, that’s the person who I would be.
With about 20% of Alec’s OCD.
Fan: What’s your
honest opinion on Jonathan?
Luke: I don’t think that he really… (hesitates) Like, ok, look! I know that he’s evil. But I really don’t
feel like… (hesitates, then glares at
audience) I heard that! She said ‘excuses!’. Let me give you some excuses.
He was injected with demon blood as a child. And here’s the thing, we talked
about this just now in the Meet & Greet and like, when Dom was possessed by…
hang on, not Dom! When Jace was possessed by the owl and did horrible things,
we all gave him a free pass. And when Clary was under the influence of
Jonathan, we all gave her a free pass. But I never got a f— free pass! He was
injected with demon blood and then he was sent to hell to be tortured! Like, I
know, it’s not ‘oh, poor Jonathan’, but I would have liked to see a world where
he got the love that most people deserve.
It was really funny, when I met Jocelyn in the last episode
when she comes back for the… you know, the doom prophecy (laughter) and our trailers were next to each other and I saw her
name on the door and I was like ‘right’, and I stormed over and knocked on her
door and was like ‘Hi I’m Luke!’ and she’s like ‘Oh, you’re playing Jonathan!’
and I’m like ‘Yeah. (agitated) Why
did you give me up?!?’ and she’s like ‘Because you kept killing things!’ and I
was like ‘Buy new things!’ and she goes ‘You killed our caretaker when you were
ten’ and I was like ‘Well, maybe I didn’t know that was wrong!’
But seriously, I would have liked to see a world where we
saw a bit more of that side. And maybe it’s just me, but I tend to believe the
best in everyone, and obviously not everyone is redeemable, because some people
have psychological issues that you can’t get away from, but I do think he
wouldn’t be anywhere near as messed up if he had been raised by a loving
family.
(AWWW)
Fan cosplaying Clary
walks up to the microphone
Luke: I saw you walking across the street this morning as we
were pulling up to the lot and I was like ‘That’s Clary!’ (laughter) If I had my phone to hand quick enough I would have taken
a video.
Fan: If you could have
any rune, where would you have it, what would it be, and why?
Luke: It would be an iratze and I would have it on my neck,
just like in the show, because I think it’s really cool. It makes me feel
tough, even though I’m not. And I would use it when I’m out drinking with my
friends, like Dom, people who are going to force alcohol down my throat, I’d be
able to run to the bathroom, activate it and I wouldn’t be drunk.
Fan: Surely it’s not
a hardship to go out drinking with Dom Sherwood?
Luke: It is if you have to wake up the next morning!! But if
I had the iratze, I could keep drinking and keep going to the bathroom and
iratze myself, and keep drinking and going to the bathroom… Also I would be
pretty much invincible, but that’s a side issue.
Fan: Who would you have
liked to film more scenes with?
Luke: Harry for sure! (cheering)
He was one of the first people who sat me down when I first joined the show and
was like ‘Do you have any questions?’ and I’m like ‘How do I fight?’
I’m not the most coordinated person ever and I was so
scared. And he gave me videos of martial artists to watch and he told me that I
didn’t have to be technically proficient, I just had to look like I was and put
my own flair on it. So I would have liked to work with him and I think that
could have been a really cool story line as well.
Fan: You’re such a
funny and easy going person
Luke: That’s subjective…
Fan: How did you get
into Jonathan’s character? Especially that last scene with Clary.
Luke: Music, honestly… I mean, obviously you do a lot of
research and I actually worked with this guy who was a psychologist that worked
with the FBI to track serial killers and he profiles them. And I worked with
him in 2015 for a film and when I went into this role I spoke to him again and
asked what this person would be like… I obviously had to give him a real world
example because it doesn’t quite work to say ‘so, he’s a demon…’
It was about finding out what kind of characteristics a
person would have if they were tortured by a foster parent, if they had
murdered someone when they were ten, all those sorts of things. And he painted
a very precise picture for me of what Jonathan would be like in the real world.
Even little things like the fact that he would have disassociation like, if I
were to say hello and give you a hug you would go ‘hi, how are you’ and as a normal
person I assume you would hug me back and think that was really nice. You
wouldn’t think anything of it. Whereas Jonathan, because he’s never been hugged
before, he would think that that was a romantic advance or he would think that
this person was the love of his life. There’s this disconnect that happens.
So I did a lot of work and research around that and I knew a
lot of the triggers for him but then to get into the headspace I had a playlist
of music I would listen to every day, featuring such hits as ‘I miss you’ from
Blink 182, cause nothing says emo like Blink 182. And there’s a song called ‘White
Trash Hero’ by Archers of Loaf. I can literally listen to 10 seconds of that
song and get really angry.
And there’s a Patsy Cline song, from the 50s or 60s and it’s one of the most beautiful songs in the world, it’s called ‘You Belong To Me’ and it’s all ‘I will travel the river Nile just to find you, you belong to me’ and all that, but if you listen to it as a sociopath, it’s so creepy! So I would listen to that before doing scenes with Kat and I would hear the lyrics repeat in my head. Seriously, go back and watch any of my scenes, but with that song playing and suddenly you’ll be like ‘oh wow, that’s why you’re a creep!’
Fan: What is the most
emotionally or physically difficult thing for you as an actor?
Luke: Not counting any of the injuries I’ve had, because
obviously that was really difficult to shoot, but otherwise I find it really
hard when I have to be restrained in any way. Not just the straight jacket and
chains, but also the scene where Jonathan comes in and smashes stuff in the
apartment and falls to his knees and starts crying. That whole scene was choreographed
in a way that meant I didn’t have a lot of freedom because I had to hit so many
marks because of lighting. Basically, it’s easier to light half the stage than
he whole stage, because we don’t have that many lights, so for that specific
scene I had to hit all of these marks, smash the thing, hit a mark, start to
cry, with my head at a 45 degree to the camera… and that was really difficult
to do. You can cry and have a scene and have emotions, but when you are doing
it and it’s so constrained by your surroundings and the technical elements of
filming, it’s really hard.
I remember I did the scene and I felt good about it, and I’m
on my knees and I’m in the middle of it and the directors like ‘No! More tears!
And tilt your head to the right! Yeah! Yeah! No! Reeeally to the right! No! No!
Get the light in your eyes!’ (Luke acts
out straining his neck unnaturally while acting and crying) So that was all
really hard.
The thing that was really funny about that scene was that we
wrapped and I went to my trailer and started to get changed ready for the next
scene and I get a call back and they asked me to do another take of that scene
and I asked if they needed me to cry again and they said yes, and I’m like ‘are
you sure?’ and they’re like ‘100%’ so I’m like ‘okay’. I put my head down
again, getting to an emotional place, started crying and we shoot the scene
again and they’re like ‘great, we got it!’ and afterwards the directors like ‘Why
are you crying?’ and I’m like ‘What do you mean??’ and he says that they were
shooting the back of my head… I thought I was going to kill someone. I’m
actually going to kill someone.
Fan: Can you tell us
how Kimberly-Sue dislocated your shoulder?
Luke: Ah, Kimberly-Sue. Love that girl! This is how you can
tell that I genuinely like her. She dislocated my shoulder and I still love
her.
It was an accident. Basically there was three reasons that
it happened.
First, when I was doing the fight scene apparently my brain
was telling my body to be elastic, because it was a lot of flowing movements.
And then I went from doing flowy movements, to that jarring push. And my brain
was still telling my body to be elastic. So that didn’t help.
The second thing was that they had readjusted me just before
they called action. Camera had asked me to take a step to my right. Which would
have been fine because she was meant to be coming at me front on, but when I
took a step to the side, she was coming at me slightly from the side. So there
was nothing to stop my arm from going that way because it wasn’t in front of my
body anymore.
And then she was coming at more of a force than rehearsed because
she was wearing heels.
So yeah, it was just a really bad combination of things.
Fan: Do you think
Clary killed Jonathan with kindness or did she only kill his bad side?
Luke: I chose to believe that just after she left he woke
up. Because I can make up whatever I want to. That’s the fun of being in a
sci-fi show! I think that he woke up really confused, had no memory, looked
around and saw all the dead bodies and just got up and started running. And then
he made his way to New York because it’s Toronto and the closest major city is
New York, I don’t know how, but he got across the border. And he’s just chilling
in New York at the moment.
Fan: So you don’t
think he’s a Shadowhunter anymore?
Luke: I think he might still have it inside of himself, the
way Clary does, but he’s not aware of it.
Fan: In the book,
there’s a scene with Clary and Jonathan from an alternate universe. Do you ever
wish they included scenes like that, to see the other side of Jonathan?
Luke: So many! Yeah!
I also would have loved to have seen, and also have that
challenge as an actor to play the moment where Jonathan met Sebastian. I would
have loved to have scene that. I did try to talk Will into doing it just on my
iPhone while we were in Paris… ‘We’re in Paris! Let’s go to the café! And we
will film it!!’
Fan: It would have
been nice to see the nature/nurture thing
Luke: Yes! And that would have been really interesting. Just
the way that Clary was raised and the person Jocelyn was, that whole ‘liberal
arts New Yorkers’, and Clary was raised by a single mum cos in my head
Valentine’s still not there. I feel that would have been something that would
have been great to see and given us a chance to really understand what it would
have been like.
And it doesn’t happen in that alternate universe, but it would have been cool to see what would happen if it wasn’t me that was injected with demon blood, but Clary, and how that story would have gone down. Maybe on my 18th birthday I would have found out that I was a Shadowhunter and I’d have really good hair, and go running through the streets going… (tosses hair like he’s in a l’oreal advert)
Matt: No! Reason one: Because I’m in a room full of a bunch of British people, and I have not prepared. And reason two: because I’m not doing it. I’m sorry. I won’t. I apologise. But ask me on the street and I’ll do it one on one with you. I do it all the time as I’m walking around, but I’m not doing it here.
(all throughout Matt’s
answer he’s getting heckled by the audience daring him to do it and asking him
to prove that he does it all the time)
Dom: This is British politics. Just kind of yelling at each
other. You’re in the House of Lords explaining your point and this is what
happens, people just yelling PROVE IT!
M: I’ve seen that on TV… because I’m allowed to. You guys
aren’t. They can’t air it on TV in this country
D: That’s right
M: They can only watch it in my country, so I watch it when
you guys can’t see it, so that’s on you..
D: Does that make you more British than American? NEXT
QUESTION!
Fan: Who’s the better
sibling, Izzy or Max?
M: Go to your parents and ask them which one of us do you
love the most?
(audience yells, that
we did ask that in the Nicola panel)
M: You asked?
D: What did she say?
Audience: She said it depends on the situation
D: There’s a correct answer to this! As much as we all make
jokes about it, it is the adopted one, because she chose me!
M: I’m going to let that go because… I only have hate in my
voice right now and I’m not going to sink to his level.
Fan: What’s your
favourite thing about each other and what annoys you most?
M: My favourite thing about Dom is that he is fun to hang out with. He’s a good, nice, kind person. Thinks of others before himself. Probably a better man that I will ever be. (Audience awwwwws. Dom gets up and hands over £10 to a lot of laughter.)
M: And the thing that annoys me about Dom, is all of the above… (Laughter)
D: My favourite thing about Matt is… that he’s honest!
Fan: When you’re in
the shower… what is your go to shower song?
(Dom and Matt both
look scared at the beginning, then very relieved at the end of that question)
M: I liked the start of that question. When you guys are in
the shower… and then it was harmless
D: It was all good in the end.
M: I have never listened to a song in the shower once in my
life. I don’t think I have ever done it. Where is the music even coming from?
Is it playing outside? Are you bringing a boom box into the shower? Do I bring my
cell phone in and blast low quality tunes? No! I won’t do it and I object to
the concept and I have to say that I will never do it!
D: I promise you that at least one of these questions we’re
going to answer properly. We don’t know which one it’s going to be, but we will
answer it properly.
Fan: Dom, have you
ever played any regional characters from here in England?
D: Erm… no. Not… no. Just no.
M: He’d struggle doing the accent right
D: I haven’t… I… I… no. There’s no fun story or anecdote to
that, it’s just a no. And Matt may be correct that I do a piss poor British
accent so that’s it.
Fan: You sound a bit
Mancunian in Don’t Speak
D: In Don’t Speak, where I was supposed to be American?
Alright…
M: What?
D: They said I went a bit Mancunian in my accent in Don’t
Speak, but he’s from Massachusetts so…
M: Oh, but they are very similar so that’s okay…
Fan: Can you do an
impression of each other?
M: We get asked that every single time and we’re not doing
it because it gets us in trouble, so we don’t do it
D: Last time we did it, the show got cancelled (audience howls with laughter)
Fan: Matt, if you played Jace do you think you would have done a better job?
M: Yes! (laughter)
No, of course not! I lack the intrinsic narcissism to portray such a
delightful, adopted, second favourite.
Fan: Well you did audition
for him first… (laughter)
M: In the movie? Well… you take what you can get. You start
with the bottom roles and you work your way up…
D: Anyway, thank you!
Fan: If you could
have your favourite characters from various TV shows in one show, who would you
have and what would it be about?
M: I would have the entire cast of Veep, and I would have
them do more Veep. Is that an option? The take away from this is that I like
the show Veep.
D: I would have the entire cast from Jersey Shore, but do Lost.
Fan: This question is
for both of you
D: Playing the odds! Very nice!
Fan: We have this
debate… When you sneeze, do you sneeze into your hands or your elbow?
(Matt pulls his sweater over his mouth and nose and mimes sneezing into it)
D: Yeah, you should see the inside of that!
(Matt laughs, then pats and rubs his chest, where all the snot would be)
M: I want to talk about sneezing for a second. I’m going to
be very quick! When you sneeze, how many of you make a big loud sound? How many
of you engage your vocal cords when you sneeze? I don’t understand it. You just
let the air out. It should just be a ‘ssssss’ sound but instead you’re like ‘ACHOO!’
You said ‘achoo!’, it’s ridiculous. “I can’t control it… I sneeze and that’s what
happens” But you said ACHOO! (agitated)
Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!
D: I’m a very quiet sneezer and I sneeze into my hand. Thank
you for the question.
M: You know you know someone when you hear them sneeze, and
you go ‘Oh, its you’.
Fan: If you had your own brand of detergent, what would you
name it and what would it smell off?
D: Mine… I could bottle it and sell it here and make an
absolute fortune because I’d call mine ‘Matt Daddario’ (cheering)
M: What do I smell off? Describe me! Describe my scent.
(Dom leans over to sniff Matt and pretends to retch from the smell)
M: If you could turn that sound into a word, that would be
the name of it. The sound of retching.
D: For everyone who is live tweeting this, I want them to come up with the actual written word for (Dom retches again)
(laughter)
M: I would name my detergent ‘No, you stink!’ and the smell
would be somewhere between a person who just went for a run but wore deodorant and
the smell of a dog’s paws after it’s been outside in the grass. And it’s called
‘No, you stink!’